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Not true-Hate Bush if you want, but make no mistake-hate mongering Muslims did this.

:bthumb: right on man.

 

I just don't doubt the governments ability to use the media to spin anything it wants...

 

I do however object to the use of the word Muslims.  It's not fair to condemn the followers because of the radicals.

 

These people who committed this act are terrorists...not soldiers.  They even die for their cause at every opportunity...to me that is their ONLY redeeming value.

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Not true-Hate Bush if you want, but make no mistake-hate mongering Muslims did this.

:bthumb: right on man.

 

I just don't doubt the governments ability to use the media to spin anything it wants...

 

I do however object to the use of the word Muslims.  It's not fair to condemn the followers because of the radicals.

 

These people who committed this act are terrorists...not soldiers.  They even die for their cause at every opportunity...to me that is their ONLY redeeming value.

Well, there's a fine line between a patriot and a terrorist, huh? A muslim extremist considers the act of killing american infidels a patriotic, holy thing to do. I call them extremist Muslims. either way, they have one goal-destroy the fabric of freedom in the guise of religion. Religion is what kills, not ideas.

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I've been working in and out of the Muslim world for about 25 years.

Times--they are a-changing.

Used to be I felt safe and secure working with them and around them.

25 years ago working in Algeria and Libya?

I've sat in tents with desert Nomads, and never felt more welcome and secure.

Back then their religion taught them that guests were protected and offered friendship.

When you were invited into their camps--you were given total friendship.

Now--I'd rather be home.

Somewhere along the way--zealots have bastardized the Koran to meet political needs. TOO BAD!

I have to admit--their dedication has always scared me.

When you set back and watch them get called to prayer-it is almost scarey--they look like zombies heading to the Mosque.

I'm thinking it is a religion that uses some brainwashing tactics to control its followers.

Okay--now for the important part.

You guys leave "Dubya" alone.

He may not be the smartest leader out there--but he'll damn sure kick some ass where it needs kicking.

I'm just hoping in the next few years he feels like really kicking the shit out of some of these focks that need it!

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Not true-Hate Bush if you want, but make no mistake-hate mongering Muslims did this.

:bthumb: right on man.

 

I just don't doubt the governments ability to use the media to spin anything it wants...

 

I do however object to the use of the word Muslims.  It's not fair to condemn the followers because of the radicals.

 

These people who committed this act are terrorists...not soldiers.  They even die for their cause at every opportunity...to me that is their ONLY redeeming value.

Have you ever heard of the extremist HINDU terrorist?

 

me either.  

 

However, in India, there are Hindu sects whom are training in hand-to-hand combat... for use against the Muslem.

 

To me it points to something basically wrong at the basis of the Muslem faith.  After all, if you can motivate the HINDU to declare a cultural war against you, you are doing something WRONG.

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Not true-Hate Bush if you want, but make no mistake-hate mongering Muslims did this.

:bthumb: right on man.

 

I just don't doubt the governments ability to use the media to spin anything it wants...

 

I do however object to the use of the word Muslims.  It's not fair to condemn the followers because of the radicals.

 

These people who committed this act are terrorists...not soldiers.  They even die for their cause at every opportunity...to me that is their ONLY redeeming value.

Have you ever heard of the extremist HINDU terrorist?

 

me either.  

 

However, in India, there are Hindu sects whom are training in hand-to-hand combat... for use against the Muslem.

 

To me it points to something basically wrong at the basis of the Muslem faith.  After all, if you can motivate the HINDU to declare a cultural war against you, you are doing something WRONG.

Sadly, there are bastards everywhere...

 

By Tahir Mahmoud

 

Indian prime minister Atal Behari Vajpayee's one day fast of penitence on January 30 is reflective of the widespread hyprocrisy in the ranks of the Indian ruling elite. The fast, coinciding with the fiftieth anniversary of Karamchand Gandhi's assassination, was meant to expiate for the horrible death of an Australian Christian missionary and his two young sons in Orissa on January 23.

 

 

Graham Staines, 58, and his sons, Philip, 10 and Timothy, 8, were burnt alive when Hindu fascists doused their jeep in which they were sleeping with kerosene and set it ablaze. When the three terrified occupants tried to break out of the vehicle, the Hindu mob pushed them back into the burning inferno.

 

 

Staines's 'crime' was that he had devoted 34 years of his life to serving lepers in India. A week prior to Christmas, Hindu terrorists had attacked and burnt churches in Gujarat's Dangs district but no one was killed there.

 

The ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) whose allies perpetrated the Orissa horror, immediately pronounced the attack as 'an isolated incident.' How isolated was the attack? There have been 108 attacks against Christians in India over the past year. On February 3, a nun was gangraped in the same locality where Staines and his children were burnt alive and on February 6, a Christian boy and his sister were murdered.

 

 

The number of anti-Muslim attacks is more than three times higher. These are euphemistically dismissed as 'communal riots.'

 

 

Vajpayee's fast of penitence must be viewed against the backdrop of his statements. When he visited Dangs district on January 10, he called for a 'national debate to re-examine the freedom of religious conversations,' as reported by the Times of India on January 11, 1999. Vajpayee went further. He said 'religious conversion by Christian missionaries was at the root of all the trouble in the district,' (Hindu, January 11, 1999).

 

Many observers saw this as a green light to his Hindu terrorist allies to continue with their anti-Christian crusade which resulted in the tragic deaths of Staines and his two children. On January 29, some 3,000 Muslims and Christians, perhaps for the first time, took out a joint procession in Delhi denouncing the government's failure to curb attacks on minorities. Even as Christians were being targeted, Muslims were being killed by the Hindu terrorists as was witnessed in Surathkal, Karnataka (see Crescent International, January 16-31, 1999).

 

 

Vajpayee's assertion that 'religious conversion by Christian missionaries was at the root of all the trouble' was dismissed by Delhi's Archbishop Alan de Lastic. He said that had Christians being involved in conversions, there would be 350 million, not a merely 23 million Christians in India.

 

The role of Christian missionaries in India also needs a closer look. The best known missionary, of course, was Mother Teresa, who died in August 1997. She had devoted her entire life to looking after destitute children in the slums of Calcutta. In a letter to Dalit Voice (February 1-15, 1999), Ebe Sunder Raj of India Missions Association, gave some statistics pertaining to the work of Christian missionaries. He wrote: 'The 2.3 percent Christians in the Indian population cater to 20 percent of all primary education in India, 10 percent of all the literacy and community healthcare, 25 percent of all existing care of destitutes and orphans, 30 percent of all the handicapped, lepers and AIDS patients etc.'

 

 

These are very impressive figures. So why are the Hindu terrorists targeting the very people who are helping the most deprived of the Indian society? The answer is that the Hindu terrorists belong to the upper caste. The oppressed and downtrodden in India belong to the lower castes. The upper caste Hindus do not wish to see members of the lower castes getting educated otherwise they will begin to demand their fair share as well as question why they are being deprived of their basic rights.

 

 

According to the Indian constitution, discrimination on the basis of caste is forbidden. The reality is otherwise. Prejudice cannot be erased from people's minds simply by legislation. It requires the full force of the law to punish those who violate these rules. Since power has resided in the hands of the Brahmins - the tiny class of parasites sitting at the apex of the caste pyramid - they have made sure that the lower castes continue to suffer the indignity and humiliation they have endured for millennia.

 

Despite much talk about Indian secularism, freedom and equality, the upper castes do not marry from the lower castes, nor allow their daughters to be married by members of the lower caste. Caste

 

discrimination--religiously-sanctioned apartheid--is a permanent feature of life in India, and is widespread.

 

 

Not only is such discrimination tolerated in India, even the west remains silent about it. One can imagine the rucous that would have erupted had a Christian missionary being killed in Pakistan or some other Muslim country. The US has in fact passed a bill into law under which it will impose sanctions on any country where Christians are persecuted. There is little chance of this law being applied to India.

 

 

In fact, at the time when Christians in India were protesting against their persecution at the hands of Hindu terrorists, the US was busy huddling with Indian officials offering them partnership in trade, commerce and technology. Like the Christian Palestinians suffering at the hands of the zionist occupiers, the Christians of India, too, can forget about any help from the west. The west's concern about Christians is aroused only if it undermines Muslims.

 

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Even christianity has it's share of wackos

 

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - Former U.S. fugitive and accused serial bomber Eric Rudolph pleaded guilty Wednesday to the 1998 bombing of an Alabama abortion clinic that killed a police officer and maimed a nurse.

When asked by a federal judge in Birmingham whether he had planted the bomb that exploded outside the New Woman All Women Health Care clinic in Birmingham on Jan. 29, 1998, Rudolph calmly replied, "I certainly did, your honor."

 

The 38-year-old survivalist and suspected white supremacist agreed to be sentenced to life in prison without parole for the blast as part of a plea bargain with federal prosecutors that spared him the death penalty.

 

He was scheduled to be escorted to Atlanta later Wednesday to plead guilty to the 1996 bombing of the Summer Olympics in Atlanta and subsequent blasts at an abortion clinic and lesbian bar in and around the Georgia capital.

 

He is expected to be sentenced to life in prison without parole for the Atlanta attacks, which killed one person and injured more than 100 others.

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Even christianity has it's share of wackos

 

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - Former U.S. fugitive and accused serial bomber Eric Rudolph pleaded guilty Wednesday to the 1998 bombing of an Alabama abortion clinic that killed a police officer and maimed a nurse.

When asked by a federal judge in Birmingham whether he had planted the bomb that exploded outside the New Woman All Women Health Care clinic in Birmingham on Jan. 29, 1998, Rudolph calmly replied, "I certainly did, your honor."

 

The 38-year-old survivalist and suspected white supremacist agreed to be sentenced to life in prison without parole for the blast as part of a plea bargain with federal prosecutors that spared him the death penalty.

 

He was scheduled to be escorted to Atlanta later Wednesday to plead guilty to the 1996 bombing of the Summer Olympics in Atlanta and subsequent blasts at an abortion clinic and lesbian bar in and around the Georgia capital.

 

He is expected to be sentenced to life in prison without parole for the Atlanta attacks, which killed one person and injured more than 100 others.

That asshole just claimed to be a Christian Dave. Acts speak louder than words.

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Even christianity has it's share of wackos

 

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - Former U.S. fugitive and accused serial bomber Eric Rudolph pleaded guilty Wednesday to the 1998 bombing of an Alabama abortion clinic that killed a police officer and maimed a nurse.

When asked by a federal judge in Birmingham whether he had planted the bomb that exploded outside the New Woman All Women Health Care clinic in Birmingham on Jan. 29, 1998, Rudolph calmly replied, "I certainly did, your honor."

 

The 38-year-old survivalist and suspected white supremacist agreed to be sentenced to life in prison without parole for the blast as part of a plea bargain with federal prosecutors that spared him the death penalty.

 

He was scheduled to be escorted to Atlanta later Wednesday to plead guilty to the 1996 bombing of the Summer Olympics in Atlanta and subsequent blasts at an abortion clinic and lesbian bar in and around the Georgia capital.

 

He is expected to be sentenced to life in prison without parole for the Atlanta attacks, which killed one person and injured more than 100 others.

which just provesd my point-it's always easier to kill in the name of religion-very sad, but true. they're all guilty of it.

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Even christianity has it's share of wackos

 

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - Former U.S. fugitive and accused serial bomber Eric Rudolph pleaded guilty Wednesday to the 1998 bombing of an Alabama abortion clinic that killed a police officer and maimed a nurse.

When asked by a federal judge in Birmingham whether he had planted the bomb that exploded outside the New Woman All Women Health Care clinic in Birmingham on Jan. 29, 1998, Rudolph calmly replied, "I certainly did, your honor."

 

The 38-year-old survivalist and suspected white supremacist agreed to be sentenced to life in prison without parole for the blast as part of a plea bargain with federal prosecutors that spared him the death penalty.

 

He was scheduled to be escorted to Atlanta later Wednesday to plead guilty to the 1996 bombing of the Summer Olympics in Atlanta and subsequent blasts at an abortion clinic and lesbian bar in and around the Georgia capital.

 

He is expected to be sentenced to life in prison without parole for the Atlanta attacks, which killed one person and injured more than 100 others.

Bullshit Dave....Eric Rudolph didn't build those bombs,......the gubment did.  Rudolph is a hero and a scapegoat....and while I'm at it, there was a second gunman in the grassy knoll, Koresh was murdered by the Goverment, The Goverment knew ahead of time that McVeigh was going to blow up the OKC Federal Building, a missle brought down the twin towers and of course the Pentagon was damaged by a Cessna.  Oh yea....the earth is really flat and guns don't kill people, I do..

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Be careful of those Radical Baptist.......... dang fanatics are trying to close another Beer store..........

 

Oh do you know why Baptist dont make love standing up????

 

They dont want anyone to think their Dancing!

 

Guess my point is all religions have their extreamist but only one or two cause death and distruction along its so clled path to heaven!

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