Guest_ikonboard Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Finally the courts and everyone else has stepped aside and this broad gets her wish to die ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoosH Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME! YOU'D THINK HER PARENTS WERE GETTING GOVERNMENTAL ASSISTANCE TO KEEP THEIR DAUGHTER ON LIFE SUPPORT OR SOMETHING. wASN'T IT 15 YEARS, OR SOME STUPID SHIT ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 As far as I know, she left no advance directive stating her wishes. You have the word of her husband, who allegedly abused her, has two rug rats with another woman, and stands to collect a substantial life insurance check when Terri dies. She was showing progress during physical therepy when her husband ordered it stopped several years ago. I think that if her parents are willing to take on the responsibility, both emotional and financial, of caring for their daughter, they should be allowed to. Just as a side note, If I left a dog to starve in my back yard, I would be arrested.Rightfully so. This woman will die a slow painful death. Just my $.02 Rosie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind Dancer Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Once someone signs off for a feeding tube there's no way to make them have one.My mom won't let them put in a feeding tube when she gets unable to eat.I really don't like the whole process but respect her wishes.Wouldn't want to be a veg myself.If you have a pet that is suffering/terminal you have it put to sleep.I want to be put to sleep if I'm ever in that condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_ikonboard Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 who allegedly abused her Doesnt mean shit brother! Also , I agree as a sane person who has a healthy life or even one who were a retard it would be a cruel death , hoever when your brain dead , your dead! She aint gonna feel no pain when she goes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 who allegedly abused her Doesnt mean shit brother! Also , I agree as a sane person who has a healthy life or even one who were a retard it would be a cruel death , hoever when your brain dead , your dead! She aint gonna feel no pain when she goes! Yup.. Spirit rider.. knows all about being brain dead.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_ikonboard Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 who allegedly abused her Doesnt mean shit brother! Also , I agree as a sane person who has a healthy life or even one who were a retard it would be a cruel death , hoever when your brain dead , your dead! She aint gonna feel no pain when she goes! Yup.. Spirit rider.. knows all about being brain dead.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Mike Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 This woman is genuinely f%cked up. No doubt of that, but in the absence of a 'living will', I believe it's wrong for someone who has demonstrated no love for her at all, to make the decision to starve her to death. My wife has some health problems that make a long-term coma a very real possibility. She has made a point of telling her whole family that she does not want to live like that. This woman in Florida did'nt do that. IMHO, if her parents are willing to take on the financial burden, then let them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 who allegedly abused her Doesnt mean shit brother! Also , I agree as a sane person who has a healthy life or even one who were a retard it would be a cruel death , hoever when your brain dead , your dead! She aint gonna feel no pain when she goes! Maybe it doesn't mean shit, but I don't think he gives half a shit about this woman. By the way. She is brain Damaged not brain dead. That's a world of difference. Plus, she is NOT on life support (ventilator, etc), and the nurses that care for her say she responds to them. I believe she would feel pain. Rosie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonaSpirit Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 There's been a lot of information in the local papers here about this family. You can't fault the husband for going on with his life after 15 years. You can't fault the parents for not wanting to let go of their daughter, and for trying to hold on to hope. I know I would not be able to make the decision to starve one of my children to death, no matter what condition they were in. The doctors say that her responses are "reflexsive" such as when you get the reflex hammer to the knee and your foot kicks out. However, I don't think they know all the intricasies of how the brain works, or what medical discoveries may be made as time goes on. And the medical personnel who care for her say she does respond to them, in a limited fashion. There was a malpractice suit many years ago, and the funds that were awarded from that suit are being used to pay for her care and medical treatment. If she dies, her husband will receive the balance of those funds, as well as the proceeds from her life insurance. Since the parents are willing to assume responsibility for their daughter, and the funds are there and specifically provided for her care, then I have to agree with Rosie on this one. The husband should divorce her, step aside and continue going on with his life. People who definitely do not want extraordinary means to be used to keep them alive, make sure that their wishes are known, both verbally and in writing. In this case, she did not state that, either verbally or in writing. The husband says that she would not want to be kept alive this way, the parents say the opposite...but both are guessing based on their years of interaction with the woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiremanDave Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 I'm not familiar enough with this case to have an opinion, but this is something that each of us as a motorcycle rider may have to deal with, I.E. Brain Damange from a wreck. We have a responsibility to our families to let our wishes be known, be it a DNR, Advanced Mecdical Directive, Living Will or Donor card. There is no reason to burden love ones with making a decision for us when we can with a little effort make the decision now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snogoer Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 There's been a lot of information in the local papers here about this family. You can't fault the husband for going on with his life after 15 years. You can't fault the parents for not wanting to let go of their daughter, and for trying to hold on to hope. I know I would not be able to make the decision to starve one of my children to death, no matter what condition they were in. The doctors say that her responses are "reflexsive" such as when you get the reflex hammer to the knee and your foot kicks out. However, I don't think they know all the intricasies of how the brain works, or what medical discoveries may be made as time goes on. And the medical personnel who care for her say she does respond to them, in a limited fashion. There was a malpractice suit many years ago, and the funds that were awarded from that suit are being used to pay for her care and medical treatment. If she dies, her husband will receive the balance of those funds, as well as the proceeds from her life insurance. Since the parents are willing to assume responsibility for their daughter, and the funds are there and specifically provided for her care, then I have to agree with Rosie on this one. The husband should divorce her, step aside and continue going on with his life. People who definitely do not want extraordinary means to be used to keep them alive, make sure that their wishes are known, both verbally and in writing. In this case, she did not state that, either verbally or in writing. The husband says that she would not want to be kept alive this way, the parents say the opposite...but both are guessing based on their years of interaction with the woman. I'm going to have to agree with Lisa! I got enough shit going on in my life, I sure would not want to step in God's shoes and later find out that the very act of making his decisions might just piss him off! He's pissed off at me plenty anyway! I sure would not want to poor more gas on the fire that he might have stolked up for me right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottdog Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 The day I can't wipe my own ass anymore is the day I want to die. Brain damage or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGSCOT Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 You say that now Scottdog but when that time comes you may come to a different decision. My father died on Nov 29 2004 from complications of diabetes. He was a tall, rugged, good looking, a mans man. When he started to go down hill about 15 years ago he also wanted to cash it in. He was frugle with his money (depression child) and was able to have care-givers help with his needs up to his death. He was 81 when he passed and even with the amputation of one leg and going blind from macular degeneration. He was comfortable toward the end and said he was ready to go. We had a hospise for him (the government pays for it under medicare). A DNR order is necessary along with all your affairs in order before the time comes. Sorry to use this topic as a sounding board, part of the grieving process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottdog Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 You say that now Scottdog but when that time comes you may come to a different decision. My father died on Nov 29 2004 from complications of diabetes. He was a tall, rugged, good looking, a mans man. When he started to go down hill about 15 years ago he also wanted to cash it in. He was frugle with his money (depression child) and was able to have care-givers help with his needs up to his death. He was 81 when he passed and even with the amputation of one leg and going blind from macular degeneration. He was comfortable toward the end and said he was ready to go. We had a hospise for him (the government pays for it under medicare). A DNR order is necessary along with all your affairs in order before the time comes. Sorry to use this topic as a sounding board, part of the grieving process. So, he wanted to cash it in but you guys wouldn't let him. Isn't that being kind of selfish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGSCOT Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Before running piehole, think about what you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snogoer Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 You say that now Scottdog but when that time comes you may come to a different decision. My father died on Nov 29 2004 from complications of diabetes. He was a tall, rugged, good looking, a mans man. When he started to go down hill about 15 years ago he also wanted to cash it in. He was frugle with his money (depression child) and was able to have care-givers help with his needs up to his death. He was 81 when he passed and even with the amputation of one leg and going blind from macular degeneration. He was comfortable toward the end and said he was ready to go. We had a hospise for him (the government pays for it under medicare). A DNR order is necessary along with all your affairs in order before the time comes. Sorry to use this topic as a sounding board, part of the grieving process. SORRY BRO! Here is something that might help you reflect: "I have only but a minute, only 60 seconds in it, forced upon me, can't refuse it, didn't seek it, didn't choose it, but it's up to me to use it. I must suffer if I lose it; give account if I abuse it. Just a tiny little minute, but all of eternity is wrapped up in it." Benjamin Elijah Mays It kind of somes the whole life and living it thing in a few short words! Later Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottdog Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Before running piehole, think about what you say. Exscuse me. Just asking a question. You made it sound like you wouldn't let him. Piehole out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoosH Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 I, Marcus Wade Foshee, being of sound mind and chubby body, do hereby authorize the use of life sustaining support (if deemed medically necessary) for a term not to exceed the menstrual cycle of the average woman. Seems too big a decision to be left up to a possible PMS mood swing. 28 days...that's all I ask. :wave: ~FoosH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snogoer Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 I, Marcus Wade Foshee, being of sound mind and chubby body, do hereby authorize the use of life sustaining support (if deemed medically necessary) for a term not to exceed the menstrual cycle of the average woman. Seems too big a decision to be left up to a possible PMS mood swing. 28 days...that's all I ask. :wave: ~FoosH My Ol'lady's been PMSing since August 1990. Thats when I married her! So yer shit out of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGSCOT Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Thanks Scottdog, had a feeling you were probably a stand up guy and did not understand the whole situation. Piehole remark taken back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_ikonboard Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Well if my wife (ex) and I had been together for 1 year or 59 years , if we bothe had made a pact that we should die , in case an accident caused horrific damge to our bodies and we were incoherent to the world , then thats our decision and it should be honored ! This guy says he and his wife made such a decision ! And just because , if he were to give control over to the parents and they kept the vegetable soup warm for another 30 years , guess what , he life would still be on hold ! that aint right! If something happens to me , take what I can give (as in organs) and give 'em to other people that can live a normal life! I dont care to live like a vegetable soup for thirty years and not even knowing it ! Mom and Dad will never heal there own wounds (because of me) , they will die with the "never knowing" if I would come out , that aint a way a to go! When its my turn (and believe it people , we are all in line) , let me go.................................................................. Take a ride for me and drink a beer for me , but let me go........................................................................................ .............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snogoer Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Thanks Scottdog, had a feeling you were probably a stand up guy and did not understand the whole situation. Piehole remark taken back. Glad I could help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottdog Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Thanks Scottdog, had a feeling you were probably a stand up guy and did not understand the whole situation. Piehole remark taken back. Never been very good at handing out the simpathy. Ride on, SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_ikonboard Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Thanks Scottdog, had a feeling you were probably a stand up guy and did not understand the whole situation. Piehole remark taken back. That post or not, piehole still stands!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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