Guest_ikonboard Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Teacher-Student Sex: Another Case? Feb. 9, 2005 A teacher in Tennessee has been accused of having sex with one of her students, who is 13. The Early Show co-anchor Rene Syler says Pamela Turner, 27, taught physical education, and was married to a high school basketball coach. But she's been charged with statutory rape. Prosecutor Dale Potter says, "Some people don't look at it as serious, but if you reverse the roles and make it a male on a female, then everyone gets really upset, and it's considered really serious." Potter adds Turner won't be given special treatment because she's a woman: "We intend to prosecute it as aggressively as we do our other sex cases." Turner is free on a $50,000 bond. The school system has placed her on leave. Of course, notes Syler, this is hardly the first time a teacher has been accused of having a physical relationship with a student. Perhaps the most infamous case involved Mary Kay Letourneau, a Seattle teacher whose relationship with a sixth-grader, ultimately produced two children. Letourneau spent seven years behind bars. Last December, Debra LaFave, a middle-school reading teacher in Florida, was charged having sex with a 14-year-old. Her lawyer, John Fitzgibbons, asserts, "Debbie has some profound emotional issues that are not her fault." He plans an insanity defense when her trial comes up later this year. "Three young, attractive teachers, all accused of sexual misconduct," Syler sums it up. On The Early Show Wednesday, her husband, Owen LaFave, told Syler, "My heart goes out to the husband. I know exactly what he's going through and I'd actually just like to offer him personally, although he probably won't take me up on it, the opportunity to call me and talk to me if he should choose to do so. "He just has to remain strong. Don't let pride get in the way. Find your support system, whether it be friends, or family, or church. Seek out professional help. Don't be embarassed. While I realize he's going through a sense of humiliation, reach out to people. "It really strains the fabric of your family. It's really amazing the power that the press has to really affect your family. There was a point in time when we had no private alone time as a family at all. It seemed that everywhere we went we were being followed. Every time you turned on the news or read a newspaper, it just was ubiquitous. Everywhere you went, you heard something and it's very challenging for a family." LaFave adds that he was "absolutely stunned" when he first learned Debra had been arrested, "and I have a very difficult time articulating exactly how I felt that day. It's something I still have a difficult time putting my finger on. It's just a tremendous rush of indescribable emotion, and just shock and anguish, I think." They were only married 11 months when Debra was arrested. With her lawyer planning an insanity defense, does Owen think Debra was capable or is capable of knowing the difference between right and wrong? "You know," he answered Syler, "that's not my decision to make. I think you can look at the police reports and there's a certain indication that she knew what she was doing was wrong. However, I'll leave that decision to psychologists and to the jury and to the judge if it should go to trial." Pamela Turner Mary Kay Letourneau Debra LaFave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TribalChief Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 It's both. Every kid has had a crush on a teacher, and if his dream came true, good for him *However* According to the law, it's rape, and just how will this affect the mental state of the kid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanChief Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Teacher-Student Sex: Another Case?Feb. 9, 2005 A teacher in Tennessee has been accused of having sex with one of her students, who is 13. The Early Show co-anchor Rene Syler says Pamela Turner, 27, taught physical education, and was married to a high school basketball coach. But she's been charged with statutory rape. Prosecutor Dale Potter says, "Some people don't look at it as serious, but if you reverse the roles and make it a male on a female, then everyone gets really upset, and it's considered really serious." Potter adds Turner won't be given special treatment because she's a woman: "We intend to prosecute it as aggressively as we do our other sex cases." Turner is free on a $50,000 bond. The school system has placed her on leave. Of course, notes Syler, this is hardly the first time a teacher has been accused of having a physical relationship with a student. Perhaps the most infamous case involved Mary Kay Letourneau, a Seattle teacher whose relationship with a sixth-grader, ultimately produced two children. Letourneau spent seven years behind bars. Last December, Debra LaFave, a middle-school reading teacher in Florida, was charged having sex with a 14-year-old. Her lawyer, John Fitzgibbons, asserts, "Debbie has some profound emotional issues that are not her fault." He plans an insanity defense when her trial comes up later this year. "Three young, attractive teachers, all accused of sexual misconduct," Syler sums it up. On The Early Show Wednesday, her husband, Owen LaFave, told Syler, "My heart goes out to the husband. I know exactly what he's going through and I'd actually just like to offer him personally, although he probably won't take me up on it, the opportunity to call me and talk to me if he should choose to do so. "He just has to remain strong. Don't let pride get in the way. Find your support system, whether it be friends, or family, or church. Seek out professional help. Don't be embarassed. While I realize he's going through a sense of humiliation, reach out to people. "It really strains the fabric of your family. It's really amazing the power that the press has to really affect your family. There was a point in time when we had no private alone time as a family at all. It seemed that everywhere we went we were being followed. Every time you turned on the news or read a newspaper, it just was ubiquitous. Everywhere you went, you heard something and it's very challenging for a family." LaFave adds that he was "absolutely stunned" when he first learned Debra had been arrested, "and I have a very difficult time articulating exactly how I felt that day. It's something I still have a difficult time putting my finger on. It's just a tremendous rush of indescribable emotion, and just shock and anguish, I think." They were only married 11 months when Debra was arrested. With her lawyer planning an insanity defense, does Owen think Debra was capable or is capable of knowing the difference between right and wrong? "You know," he answered Syler, "that's not my decision to make. I think you can look at the police reports and there's a certain indication that she knew what she was doing was wrong. However, I'll leave that decision to psychologists and to the jury and to the judge if it should go to trial." Pamela Turner Mary Kay Letourneau Debra LaFave Sorry, but it just isn't the same for boys. Perhaps some of you may think I'm wrong, or cruel, or sexist,but we all know men and women are different. Look, I was de-flowered at 12 by a 17 year old chick, and trust me, I wasn't scarred or scared at all! I just barely had pubes, and a little pinky-winky, but, holy shit, I'll never forget the feeling! I'm not saying it's right, and I was WAY too young, but we all know it's just not the same thing as if the roles were reversed. It's like a rites of passage for boys, but much more sacred for girls. Then, to make matters harder for the kid, the teacher is a stone-fox! E Good God, what 14 year old WOULDN'T be all over that? That kid has braggin' rights for the rest of his life, and if he acts like a victim, most likely, the kid's milking this for the media and his parents sake. I bet his dad is thinking "attaboy" but he can't say that. So, do I have a double standard? Yup. If some 30 year old dude touched my daughters, I'd personally cut off his balls and force feed them to him. If that makes me a hypocrite, so be it..but I'd be willing to bet, most people feel the same way, it's just not PC so we act enraged. Granted, what the hell was this hot looking chick doing with a 14 year old, I have no idea. Somebody wasn't treating her right, or maybe she does have a screw loose, but, truly, she only hurt herself and her husband. the kid gets braggin rights, and an early pass to manhood. He can offically graduate from Harley to an Indian now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 I agree with KC.... a boy is not going to be emotionally scarred by this..he is going to enjoy the fuck out of it and tell everyone. That is how they get caught...not from emotional scars and counseling...but because their friends are jealous and start talking and sooner or later a parent overhears them and turns her in. Yes there is a double standard and I would kill the fucker that messed with my daughters.... on the other hand I never once regretted being fondled and pleasured by my 19 year old babysitter at 14.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 he is going to enjoy the fuck out of it Actually, I'm pretty sure he enjoyed fucking it, not fucking out of it.... I agree with you two about the daughter thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2000Chief Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 I have a 14 year old son, I would rather see him meeting a girl his own age and learn what he has to learn when he and her are daring to make that move. At either 14 or 15 or even later (hopefully later and Smarter! >>Condom!). I don't think I would be happy at all to have a teacher (I admit she is hot!) take that from him because she has a twisted fetish to do a young boy. If I look back, sure I think it would have been cool to happen to me at that age, but it wouldn't have been right or even legal. Now my daughter...I would cut that teachers balls off and feed them to him! I agree in this case there is a double standard to some point. Souuldn't be but there is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huricane Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Where the hell were these bitches at when I was a kid ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanChief Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 I have a 14 year old son, I would rather see him meeting a girl his own age and learn what he has to learn when he and her are daring to make that move. At either 14 or 15 or even later (hopefully later and Smarter! >>Condom!). I don't think I would be happy at all to have a teacher (I admit she is hot!) take that from him because she has a twisted fetish to do a young boy. If I look back, sure I think it would have been cool to happen to me at that age, but it wouldn't have been right or even legal. Now my daughter...I would cut that teachers balls off and feed them to him! I agree in this case there is a double standard to some point. Souuldn't be but there is! I see your point,Robo2000, but, would you really want your son diddling around with a 14/15 year old girl? Granted, he should wait until he's responsible, that much I agree with, but think about the potential ramifications of this. for example let's say that was Bill Romanowski's or , Warren Sapps daughter your son was messing with, Or let's just say a very protective father, and he finds out. I'm thinking two things are gonna happen, either he will settle it like a protective father does, which means it ain't a polite conversation over the phone, but rather at your doorstep draggin you outside, or he get's the cops involved. Either way, you and your boy are in a world of shit. Me? I think it's safer to be the kid getting seduced by the teacher, or an older gal.(note the word safER.. no a guarantees, right?) However, we are entering a very taboo area here, and I understand that there is no easy answer (other than abstinence until you are a consenting adult) but we all know kids, especially horny teenage boys, are gonna experiment. We only hope their parents teach them about protection, and responsibility, and the cause and effect of their actions. for the record, though, you & I agree-what kinda woman wants to screw a 14 year old...definitely some weird shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2000Chief Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Totally understand what you are saying. Hard to really know the RIGHT answer. I see both examples and can argue both as well. Well I guess we can agree on one thing, this hot teacher IS in a world of shit or at least a stay in the nut house for a while But the thing I said about my daughter. A VIRGIN UNTIL SHE IS 40 Years old After she leavs the convent :veryangry: :veryangry: :veryangry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 The only way that boy is going to be traumatized by this is if the "system" make him so. Convinces him that he was hurt in some way and is now fucked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkchop Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 The kid is A Wannabe Punkass who is so sensitive He Broke the Code. You pull something like that off. You don't rat out the squeeze. He would be smarter and happier in the long run. Instead of being exposed. He'll never get trim like that again. Cause he opened his bleedin heart mouth. I would assume he has just been removed from the gene pool. Unless he wants a chick or a career from The Jerry Springer Show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiremanDave Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 You don't F@#k with kids, period. I think that your thinking is way out of line, just because he's a guy, he's suppose to enjoy it, and if it's a girl she's not. Come on, get real. There are a heck of alot more young girls enjoying sex now than back 30 years ago when I got started, and there were a heck of alot of them back then. Basicly what I hear you saying is that if your a female adult, I.E. over 18 there is no limit on who you can have sex with. That my friend is dangerously wrong thinking. I admit that in a perfect world that any two individuals that decide to have consentual sex, should be able to do so, however, individuals mature at a different rate, and by such their physical capabilities often far exceed their mental and emotional ones. Case in point a 13yo is certainly capable in concieving a child, however are they capable in raising one. The female at that age may be able to bear it, but can she truely on her own give the child what it needs emotionaly and physicaly. A 13 yo male can father a child but can he care for it, because he will be held responsible for it in court. Children should be allowed the oppertunity to be children, without the responsibilities that come with contractual obligations, and most of all should be allowed to be children with out sexual preditors engaging them, I don't care if its a guy a gal or a priest. The child that has sex with an adult will eventually want to have sex with a peer, this I can speak of from experence. The question now becomes do you want children having sex with children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizea Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 sex with a child male or female is taking advantage for your own gratification nothing else. Iwouldnt have turned it down either and that dont make it right. Ther is a age of consent. What if these kids turned up with a.i.d.s.? would it be rape or would it be murder? Just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_ikonboard Posted February 9, 2005 Author Share Posted February 9, 2005 Where the hell were these bitches at when I was a kid ? No shit , where were these broads when we were kids!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosie Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Where the hell were these bitches at when I was a kid ? No shit , where were these broads when we were kids!! I don't think they had been born yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I don't remember EVER bein a kid I was werk'n a full time job @ 8......POK'n the AMISH chicks @ 10 pulled more TITs than most...... 1 thing bout com'n from the farm,....sex is a everyday thing fukit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 Where the hell were these bitches at when I was a kid ? Her grandparents were just having kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icon Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 O.K. the teachers hot, but I agree with Fireman Dave. ADULTS DON'T HAVE SEX WITH KIDS. PERIOD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_ikonboard Posted February 10, 2005 Author Share Posted February 10, 2005 Farm ???chicks????farm???? 1 thing bout com'n from the farm,....sex is a everyday thing, chickens (chicks) , pulled more TITs than most...... (cows) ! When was your first "Human" sexual experience? And Icon , the only way you could make a statement like that is if you were a woman! Because no male on the planet (minus the Bay Area men, GI,Pablo) would turn down that oppurtunity as young lad , would he be scarred for life ? He would be seen as a celebrity as long as he stayed in school and every chick in his class , now wants to go out with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badcad Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I agree with KC.... a boy is not going to be emotionally scarred by this..he is going to enjoy the fuck out of it and tell everyone. That is how they get caught...not from emotional scars and counseling...but because their friends are jealous and start talking and sooner or later a parent overhears them and turns her in. Yes there is a double standard and I would kill the fucker that messed with my daughters.... on the other hand I never once regretted being fondled and pleasured by my 19 year old babysitter at 14.... Ron you forgot to mention your babysitter looked like your favorite TV hero at the time.........."The Niterider".. David Hasselhoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_ikonboard Posted February 10, 2005 Author Share Posted February 10, 2005 I agree with KC.... a boy is not going to be emotionally scarred by this..he is going to enjoy the fuck out of it and tell everyone. That is how they get caught...not from emotional scars and counseling...but because their friends are jealous and start talking and sooner or later a parent overhears them and turns her in. Yes there is a double standard and I would kill the fucker that messed with my daughters.... on the other hand I never once regretted being fondled and pleasured by my 19 year old babysitter at 14.... Ron you forgot to mention your babysitter looked like your favorite TV hero at the time.........."The Niterider".. David Hasselhoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badcad Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I think some of you need to reach down deep and check to see if you got a pair! These "young men" are about as lucky as it gets. Sure they might be mixed up for a little bit but better now than later. The benefits outweigh the negatives. As for the double standard well sure if I had a daughter I'd wanna help the teacher meet his particular maker as well. But remember this, most of you couldnt handle the embarrassment of any male teachers kicking your ass when you found out they just got lucky with your daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiremanDave Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 A pedifile is a pedifile regardless of gender, race, or religion. I can't say wether the boy is tramatized or not, truth be known he dosn't either, only time and interspection on his part will tell. Clinical Psycology, has ton of reference material on the early sexualization of children, and before you ask, most of it deals with females and males that have been victimized by men, but there are cases of males victimized by adult women as well. The traits that are in common are the inabilty to form long lasting relationship, control their own sexual urges and maintaing their own sexual idenity. One other common trait is that manny children that are sexualized at an early age are more prone to seek out gratification with younger partners as they grow older. So before we start congratulating the young stud, for scoring with some one 14 years older, lets back up and ask the question would we feel the same if the teacher was a man, or if the victim in the case was a female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Cheef Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 A pedophile is a pedophile. That pretty well nails it Dave! Still--the lucky little shit!! She's hot!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badcad Posted February 10, 2005 Share Posted February 10, 2005 I agree with KC.... a boy is not going to be emotionally scarred by this..he is going to enjoy the fuck out of it and tell everyone. That is how they get caught...not from emotional scars and counseling...but because their friends are jealous and start talking and sooner or later a parent overhears them and turns her in. Yes there is a double standard and I would kill the fucker that messed with my daughters.... on the other hand I never once regretted being fondled and pleasured by my 19 year old babysitter at 14.... Ron you forgot to mention your babysitter looked like your favorite TV hero at the time.........."The Niterider".. David Hasselhoff. LR's always there when you need those special pic's......Ron relax we dont want you to have any "flashbacks". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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