Hilary may get my vote.

[Guest_ikonboard]

Hillary Eyeing Immigration as Top 2008 Issue

 

More than any other leader of either political party, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton has been focusing on the issue of immigration reform and border security - taking hard-line positions that appeal to frustrated Republicans in a move that could guarantee her enough red state support to win the White House in 2008.

 

On Wednesday, as the media descended on Little Rock to cover the opening of her husband's presidential library, Sen. Clinton criticized the Bush administration for not using advanced technology to improve border security.

 

"I don't think that we have protected our borders or our ports or provided our first responders with the resources they need, so we can do more and we can do better," Clinton told Fox News Channel's Greta Van Susteren.

To enhance border security, Clinton explained, "there's technology now available. There are some advanced radar systems. There are biometric and other kinds of identification systems that we've been very slow to deploy and unwilling to spend money on."

 

Unnoticed by the big media, Sen. Clinton has been cultivating the immigration issue since last year.

 

In a February 2003 interview that went unreported except by NewsMax, Clinton told WABC Radio's John Gambling, "I am, you know, adamantly against illegal immigrants."

 

"Clearly, we have to make some tough decisions as a country," the top Democrat warned. "And one of them ought to be coming up with a much better entry and exit system so that if we're going to let people in for the work that otherwise would not be done, let's have a system that keeps track of them."

 

Taking a position far to the right of the Bush administration, Sen. Clinton said she would support "at least a visa ID, some kind of an entry and exit ID. And, you know, perhaps, although I'm not a big fan of it, we might have to move towards an ID system even for citizens."

 

The former first lady also railed against business owners who employ undocumented workers:

 

"People have to stop employing illegal immigrants," she told WABC. "I mean, come up to Westchester, go to Suffolk and Nassau counties, stand on the street corners in Brooklyn or the Bronx [and] you're going to see loads of people waiting to get picked up to go do yard work and construction work and domestic work."

 

And while President Bush continues to press for a guest-worker program - a move that pleases Mexican President Vicente Fox almost as much as it enrages most Republicans - Sen. Clinton has publicly chastised Canadian immigration officials for being too lax on border issues.

 

In December 2001, for instance, Clinton urged Canadian offiicals to "crack down on some of these false documents and illegals getting in."

 

A year later, she blasted Canada after reports indicated that al-Qaida terrorists had slipped into New York across the northern border.

 

Could a campaign that calls for a crackdown on illegal immigration be the political magic bullet that catapults the former first lady back into the White House?

 

One diehard Bush supporter, who says he can't stand the Clintons, told NewsMax, "If she ran on a platform of promising to do something about illegal immigration, hell, even I'd vote for her."

[KC Cheef]

UUUHHHH--Hillary has been known to lie!!!

I can't imagine a politician lying, but I've heard they do it sometimes to get people to vote for them!

[indian al]

I'll admit we (canadians) need to do alot more work on our borders But you guys can be lax too. Just about 2 months after 911 I crossed the border with my father in a rented 26ft u-haul at niagra. Only questions asked were nationality and whats in the truck. Told her canadian and the truck was empty. She asked for 5 bucks US I only had canadian funds didnt have a chance to convert to us yet. She said thats ok and waved me through. Didnt ask to look in the back of the truck or for any ID. Not bitching but after what happened I thought for sure we would be checked. Had a ton of ID with me and so did my dad but we were never asked for it.

[Guest_ikonboard]

UUUHHHH--Hillary has been known to lie!!!

I can't imagine a politician lying, but I've heard they do it sometimes to get people to vote for them!

At least she has the balls to talk about it.

[KC Cheef]

I'd believe the part about her having the balls--there's been some nasty rumors about Hillary's sex life too.

I read National Enquirer, and like to keep up with what's going on!!

[injun46]

I usually stay out of this shit, but that broad will, and is, saying anything to win over the conservative population of this country to win the next presidential election. I cannot imagine this country with her as president. God help us.

[porkchop]

I usually stay out of this shit.......

I hope she is the front runner for the Democrats.  

She won't win. No friggin way.      

[Guest_ikonboard]

I hope she keeps the talk up. It will get these pansy ass shit heads in the Republican party to start doing their job of protecting our country.

 

This little shit by me, Congressman David Dreier ® and G Dumbass W Bush, wants open borders. Fuck that!!

 

I am glad we do not have Kerry but GW is pretty weak himself.

[Guest_ikonboard]

Fuck Bush

 

SANTIAGO, Chile -- President Bush vowed Sunday to push a plan that would allow undocumented immigrants to remain in the United States as guest workers even though it appears less likely to win backing in a Congress that grew more conservative in this month's elections.

 

Bush made the commitment during a half-hour meeting with Mexican President Vicente Fox in the Chilean capital, where the two leaders are attending the annual Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation conference. But neither Bush nor his aides could offer any details of where the plan stood on Capitol Hill.

 

"I told President Fox that I had campaigned on this issue," Bush told reporters as he sat with Fox in the Hyatt Regency hotel in an upscale Santiago neighborhood with views of the snow-capped Andes mountains.

 

"I made it very clear my position that we need to make sure that where there's a willing worker and a willing employer, that that job ought to be filled legally in cases where Americans will not fill that job," Bush said.

 

The encounter brought the two neighbors full circle on the most complex and contentious issue between them. Bush and Fox began their terms within months of each other promising reforms to ease the flow of migrants across their 2,000-mile border. But the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, quickly pushed immigration off a Washington agenda that came to be dominated by security.

 

On Sunday, Bush conceded a point that Fox and his aides have been making: Legalizing the flow of large numbers of immigrants would free the U.S. Border Patrol to concentrate on terrorists, drug smugglers and other security threats.

 

"We share a mutual concern to make sure our border is secure," Bush said. "One way to make sure the border is secure is to have reasonable immigration policies."

 

Bush said Sunday he was undeterred by congressional opposition and intended to change minds by "working it."

 

"I'm going to find supporters on the Hill and move it," he told reporters Sunday night, during a news conference with Chilean President Ricardo Lagos at the presidential palace.

 

Asked about a letter sent to him by 21 U.S. lawmakers claiming the plan was essentially an amnesty program for undocumented workers, Bush said he was unfazed.

 

"I get letters all the time from people that are trying to steer me one way or the other when it comes to legislation," the president said. "But I'm going to move forward. In the letter, I noticed that they said, well, this is because ... they're objecting to the program because it's an amnesty program. It's not an amnesty program; it's a worker program."

 

A senior U.S. official, who briefed reporters on condition that his name not be used, said the administration had begun "consultations up on the Hill, and this is going to be part of the president's legislative agenda for this coming session of the Congress."

 

Bush's plan, not yet written into a bill, would be the first overhaul of U.S. immigration rules in 18 years. It would allow three-year work visas for an undetermined number of the millions of immigrants living illegally in the United States.

 

Guest workers could then apply for permanent legal status, but their applications would have to include letters from employers assuring that the migrants were filling jobs that could not be filled by U.S. citizens.

 

Bush announced the plan in January, when it appeared that states with heavy Latino populations -- Florida, Nevada, New Mexico and Arizona -- would be crucial to his re-election. Republican strategists hoped that hav-

 

ing the president back a moderate immigration policy would boost the party's performance among that fast-growing bloc of voters.

 

But the plan quickly came under criticism from within Bush's party. Rather than alien ate his conservative Republican base, Bush did not pursue the issue in Congress and mentioned it only occasionally during the campaign.

 

 

Conservatives and labor-union officials oppose Bush's plan because they believe it would help immigrants take jobs from U.S. workers. Immigrant advocates fear that the plan would give too much power to employers in deciding migrant workers' fate.

 

And some congressional Republicans also worry that it would encourage more Mexicans to cross the border into the United States.

 

Rep. Thomas G. Tancredo, R-Colo., one of the leading GOP critics of the Bush plan, said earlier this month that, "without first securing our borders from the mass flow of illegal immigration, any guest-worker proposal is totally unworkable."

 

Mindful of such opposition, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell cautioned Mexican officials this month that progress on immigration issues would depend as much on the new Congress as on the administration.

 

"We don't want to over-promise," Powell said.

 

Members of Congress who support immigration reform say that no change is possible without strong presidential leadership.

 

Asked Sunday about the strength of Bush's commitment, Fox told CNN: "He is willing to lead and conduct ahead with the appropriate political timing. He has the will in trying to work this thing out."

 

Fox, who supports legalized status for the estimated 5 million undocumented Mexicans living in the United States, said he hopes to travel to Washington as early as February to "finish off some of these issues we've been discussing, perhaps putting them in the shape of some form of agreement."

 

[porkchop]

Rather than alien ate his conservative Republican base

 

 

   

 

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[Gary2Wheels]

UUUHHHH--Hillary has been known to lie!!!

I can't imagine a politician lying, but I've heard they do it sometimes to get people to vote for them!

gee KC..almost like what's goin' on in the House of Representatives with Tom Delay's cheering a section  gettin' his ass out of the slammer by changing the house rules that..uhoh,anyone how that rule change took place?Does the name Jim Wright ring a bell? ..You guys crack me up..if it were'nt for the fact that everyone's got there head up the elephant's ass,I'd give a shit..except that the country has gone to hell under Dumya and the GOP..or have'nt you noticed....old wisdom reads,'when you got your head up somebody's ass.it's tough to see where your goin'...

this is pitiful

[porkchop]

UUUHHHH--Hillary has been known to lie!!!

I can't imagine a politician lying, but I've heard they do it sometimes to get people to vote for them!

gee KC..almost like what's goin' on in the House of Representatives with Tom Delay's cheering a section  gettin' his ass out of the slammer by changing the house rules that..uhoh,anyone how that rule change took place?Does the name Jim Wright ring a bell? ..You guys crack me up..if it were'nt for the fact that everyone's got there head up the elephant's ass,I'd give a shit..except that the country has gone to hell under Dumya and the GOP..or have'nt you noticed....old wisdom reads,'when you got your head up somebody's ass.it's tough to see where your goin'...

this is pitiful

I tried to see things from your point of view.....

 

But I couldn't get my head that far up my Ass!  

[Guest_ikonboard]

UUUHHHH--Hillary has been known to lie!!!

I can't imagine a politician lying, but I've heard they do it sometimes to get people to vote for them!

gee KC..almost like what's goin' on in the House of Representatives with Tom Delay's cheering a section  gettin' his ass out of the slammer by changing the house rules that..uhoh,anyone how that rule change took place?Does the name Jim Wright ring a bell? ..You guys crack me up..if it were'nt for the fact that everyone's got there head up the elephant's ass,I'd give a shit..except that the country has gone to hell under Dumya and the GOP..or have'nt you noticed....old wisdom reads,'when you got your head up somebody's ass.it's tough to see where your goin'...

this is pitiful

Again an unsupported statement; but hey, don't let the facts get in the way.

 

To bad the Democratic party as slid so far to the left that they can't get a legitimate person to run for office.

 

Gore and Kerry? Those two have written enough books that you know what they think. And what they think is scary.

[Fat Charlie]

I'd believe the part about her having the balls--there's been some nasty rumors about Hillary's sex life too.

I read National Enquirer, and like to keep up with what's going on!!

If the National Inquirer is good enough for MIB is should be good enough for us.

[Steve J]

UUUHHHH--Hillary has been known to lie!!!

I can't imagine a politician lying, but I've heard they do it sometimes to get people to vote for them!

gee KC..almost like what's goin' on in the House of Representatives with Tom Delay's cheering a section  gettin' his ass out of the slammer by changing the house rules that..uhoh,anyone how that rule change took place?Does the name Jim Wright ring a bell? ..You guys crack me up..if it were'nt for the fact that everyone's got there head up the elephant's ass,I'd give a shit..except that the country has gone to hell under Dumya and the GOP..or have'nt you noticed....old wisdom reads,'when you got your head up somebody's ass.it's tough to see where your goin'...

this is pitiful

Again an unsupported statement; but hey, don't let the facts get in the way.

 

To bad the Democratic party as slid so far to the left that they can't get a legitimate person to run for office.

 

Gore and Kerry? Those two have written enough books that you know what they think. And what they think is scary.

Looks like the facts were straight to me..  As to support..  If you mean it needs a news article cut and pasted into it...  Well here ya go..

 

Thursday, November 18, 2004 · Last updated 11:06 a.m. PT

 

House GOP changes rules to protect DeLay

 

By LARRY MARGASAK

ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

 

 

 House Majority Leader Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas, walks to his car as he leaves the White House after a Congressional Leadership breakfast with President Bush Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2004. Moving to protect Majority Leader Tom DeLay, House Republicans want to change party rules to ensure that DeLay retains his post if a Texas grand jury indicts him as it did with three of his political associates. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)  

WASHINGTON -- Whether it's flying to small towns to help Republicans raise money or engineering a redistricting plan giving his party control of the Texas congressional delegation, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay delivers for his members. Now the members have delivered for him.

 

House Republicans on Wednesday changed a party rule so DeLay, R-Texas, could remain as leader if indicted in a Texas campaign finance investigation that he calls political.

 

The old rule required GOP leaders and committee chairmen charged with a felony to relinquish their positions. The new language orders a case-by-case review, with the leaders retaining their posts until all House Republicans decide their fate.

 

Along with legal arguments for protecting those who might be charged but not convicted, there clearly was another message for DeLay: "thank you."

 

The backing for DeLay "took on a life of its own; it was like a tsunami," Rep. Ray Lahood, R-Ill., said in comparing Republican support to a large sea wave.

 

Lahood, elected with the 1994 Republican class that captured control of the House, opposed the change but understood the outpouring of support.

 

"It was the result of the fact that he increased our numbers, he takes care of members when they need legislation passed, his fund raising and, in Texas, his drawing people a good district," LaHood said.

 

There is no indication DeLay will be indicted by an Austin grand jury in a probe led by a Democratic prosecutor, Ronnie Earle. In September, however, grand jurors indicted three DeLay associates and eight corporations in an investigation of allegedly illegal corporate contributions to a political action committee associated with DeLay.

 

 

 

DeLay is known as "the hammer." He hammers liberals. He hammers Democrats. He hammers out majorities for legislation. In September, the House ethics committee concluded he overdid his efforts of persuasion - offering to support the House candidacy of a lawmaker's son in return for a vote in favor of a Medicare prescription drug benefit.

 

And, as with any strong congressional leader, there's a price members are expected to pay in return for DeLay's help with their legislation, their committee assignments, their chairmanships and their campaign war chests. The price is loyalty.

 

DeLay showed none of his usual intensity when Republicans debated their rules change Wednesday. By his own account, DeLay stood in the back of the room, only discussing the need for the change when members approached him.

 

"I did not instigate this," DeLay told reporters after the meeting. "It was not leader led. This came from the members themselves."

 

More than 200 Republicans were eligible to vote on the change and a vocal minority shouted "no" in a voice vote.

 

Rep. Henry Bonilla, R-Texas, said he was motivated to sponsor the change because DeLay or anyone else should be judged innocent unless proven guilty. Still, the message of support for DeLay at the meeting was not lost on him.

 

"It was interesting to hear the resounding emotion," Bonilla said.

 

"There's hardly a (Republican member) who hasn't been touched (by DeLay). A bill, a political issue, a trip where he took three puddle jumpers to get to a little town. He's fearless. He takes a lot of heat, slings and arrows and bullets. There's a lot of loyalty that comes back."

 

Bonilla had a good reason to thank DeLay. The leader's Texas redistricting plan increased Bonilla's winning margin from less than 52 percent in 2002 to 69 percent on Nov. 2. The state's current House lineup of 16 Republicans and 16 Democrats will change next year to 21 Republicans and 11 Democrats, thanks to DeLay's plan.

 

LaHood and Rep. Christopher Shays of Connecticut - another Republican opponent of the rules change - both said it sends the wrong message of favoritism toward DeLay and congressional leaders.

 

Shays, elected in 1987, said he realizes his opposition could cost him a committee chairmanship in the next Congress.

 

"They don't have to tell you these things," he said. "The people you're passing judgment on are the people who are making the decisions."

 

But Shays still had a backhanded compliment for the leader he wasn't afraid to cross.

 

"If I ever had to face a knife," he said, "it would be in my belly and not in my back."

[Guest_ikonboard]

UUUHHHH--Hillary has been known to lie!!!

I can't imagine a politician lying, but I've heard they do it sometimes to get people to vote for them!

gee KC..almost like what's goin' on in the House of Representatives with Tom Delay's cheering a section  gettin' his ass out of the slammer by changing the house rules that..uhoh,anyone how that rule change took place?Does the name Jim Wright ring a bell? ..You guys crack me up..if it were'nt for the fact that everyone's got there head up the elephant's ass,I'd give a shit..except that the country has gone to hell under Dumya and the GOP..or have'nt you noticed....old wisdom reads,'when you got your head up somebody's ass.it's tough to see where your goin'...

this is pitiful

Again an unsupported statement; but hey, don't let the facts get in the way.

 

To bad the Democratic party as slid so far to the left that they can't get a legitimate person to run for office.

 

Gore and Kerry? Those two have written enough books that you know what they think. And what they think is scary.

Looks like the facts were straight to me..  As to support..  If you mean it needs a news article cut and pasted into it...  Well here ya go..

 

Thursday, November 18, 2004 · Last updated 11:06 a.m. PT

 

House GOP changes rules to protect DeLay

 

By LARRY MARGASAK

ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

 

 

 House Majority Leader Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas, walks to his car as he leaves the White House after a Congressional Leadership breakfast with President Bush Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2004. Moving to protect Majority Leader Tom DeLay, House Republicans want to change party rules to ensure that DeLay retains his post if a Texas grand jury indicts him as it did with three of his political associates. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)  

WASHINGTON -- Whether it's flying to small towns to help Republicans raise money or engineering a redistricting plan giving his party control of the Texas congressional delegation, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay delivers for his members. Now the members have delivered for him.

 

House Republicans on Wednesday changed a party rule so DeLay, R-Texas, could remain as leader if indicted in a Texas campaign finance investigation that he calls political.

 

The old rule required GOP leaders and committee chairmen charged with a felony to relinquish their positions. The new language orders a case-by-case review, with the leaders retaining their posts until all House Republicans decide their fate.

 

Along with legal arguments for protecting those who might be charged but not convicted, there clearly was another message for DeLay: "thank you."

 

The backing for DeLay "took on a life of its own; it was like a tsunami," Rep. Ray Lahood, R-Ill., said in comparing Republican support to a large sea wave.

 

Lahood, elected with the 1994 Republican class that captured control of the House, opposed the change but understood the outpouring of support.

 

"It was the result of the fact that he increased our numbers, he takes care of members when they need legislation passed, his fund raising and, in Texas, his drawing people a good district," LaHood said.

 

There is no indication DeLay will be indicted by an Austin grand jury in a probe led by a Democratic prosecutor, Ronnie Earle. In September, however, grand jurors indicted three DeLay associates and eight corporations in an investigation of allegedly illegal corporate contributions to a political action committee associated with DeLay.

 

 

 

DeLay is known as "the hammer." He hammers liberals. He hammers Democrats. He hammers out majorities for legislation. In September, the House ethics committee concluded he overdid his efforts of persuasion - offering to support the House candidacy of a lawmaker's son in return for a vote in favor of a Medicare prescription drug benefit.

 

And, as with any strong congressional leader, there's a price members are expected to pay in return for DeLay's help with their legislation, their committee assignments, their chairmanships and their campaign war chests. The price is loyalty.

 

DeLay showed none of his usual intensity when Republicans debated their rules change Wednesday. By his own account, DeLay stood in the back of the room, only discussing the need for the change when members approached him.

 

"I did not instigate this," DeLay told reporters after the meeting. "It was not leader led. This came from the members themselves."

 

More than 200 Republicans were eligible to vote on the change and a vocal minority shouted "no" in a voice vote.

 

Rep. Henry Bonilla, R-Texas, said he was motivated to sponsor the change because DeLay or anyone else should be judged innocent unless proven guilty. Still, the message of support for DeLay at the meeting was not lost on him.

 

"It was interesting to hear the resounding emotion," Bonilla said.

 

"There's hardly a (Republican member) who hasn't been touched (by DeLay). A bill, a political issue, a trip where he took three puddle jumpers to get to a little town. He's fearless. He takes a lot of heat, slings and arrows and bullets. There's a lot of loyalty that comes back."

 

Bonilla had a good reason to thank DeLay. The leader's Texas redistricting plan increased Bonilla's winning margin from less than 52 percent in 2002 to 69 percent on Nov. 2. The state's current House lineup of 16 Republicans and 16 Democrats will change next year to 21 Republicans and 11 Democrats, thanks to DeLay's plan.

 

LaHood and Rep. Christopher Shays of Connecticut - another Republican opponent of the rules change - both said it sends the wrong message of favoritism toward DeLay and congressional leaders.

 

Shays, elected in 1987, said he realizes his opposition could cost him a committee chairmanship in the next Congress.

 

"They don't have to tell you these things," he said. "The people you're passing judgment on are the people who are making the decisions."

 

But Shays still had a backhanded compliment for the leader he wasn't afraid to cross.

 

"If I ever had to face a knife," he said, "it would be in my belly and not in my back."

I was referring to (and it is my fault for not being clearer) this general BS statement, "except that the country has gone to hell under Dumya and the GOP".

 

But, to your point, I don't really care if a party decides to change it's parties rules. They do it all the time for reason they feel are justified. Too bad. If the party members don't like it it is up to them to stop. Party rules are set for the party.

 

As matter of fact, they seem more reasonable now. Why punish someone for being "charged with a felony"? Many people are charged but not convicted. The names of a few Democrats come to mind.

 

As far as the change of party rules keeping him "out of the slammer" .... no. Party rules have nothing to do with the rule of law. In the articles you site,

There is no indication DeLay will be indicted by an Austin grand jury in a probe led by a Democratic prosecutor, Ronnie Earle. In September, however, grand jurors indicted three DeLay associates and eight corporations in an investigation of allegedly illegal corporate contributions to a political action committee associated with DeLay.

Even if he was indicted, all that means is "a formal accusation or indictment against (a party) by the findings of a jury, especially a grand jury" was brought forth. Not a conviction of criminal wrong doing.

 

Quite different then being "saved from the slammer."

 

Merely posting an article is not enough; it needs to support your statement.

[Gary2Wheels]

LR ..while I admire to degree to which you research other people's data to espouse your opinion..it's an old game of cut and paste.If my boat's sinking,I'm not gonna sit there watching it and calculate how long it will take before my ass goes under..I'm gonna do something..RESPOND (not react) to the situation. In all my experience (29 yrs) in govt,what I learned is... POWER,GREED,FEAR & MONEY have taken over.

I'm not partisan ...just an observer who sees that big business has taken control of govt.I watched it happen from the inside out under Pataki her in N.Y....and fought it.

The method used was quite insidious..first conscript those with your VALUES ( hmmm values,ya mean like P,G,F&M ?),secondly obfuscate the language so that only WE (important) folks know what we're talking about,thirdly DISCREDIT your enemies(ya mean like character assination?..oh yeah the texas swift boaters),lastly NOW we're ready to INCORPORATE!...how 'bout on a world scale!..geeez we could have manufacturing bases in third world countries!Wudda we need those pain in the ass damn unions for...fukkin' troulble makers...NOW WE'VE GOT IT!

 

....Oh BTW anyone want to know who's part of the gang?Check out the Carlyle group if you want to get started...just punch in Carlyle group in Google.Be warned this transcends elephants and jackasses..

 

One more thing...anyboby recall seeing any PICTURES of our cherished son's and daughter's flag draped coffins lately ?..wonder why.

[Gary2Wheels]

UUUHHHH--Hillary has been known to lie!!!

I can't imagine a politician lying, but I've heard they do it sometimes to get people to vote for them!

gee KC..almost like what's goin' on in the House of Representatives with Tom Delay's cheering a section  gettin' his ass out of the slammer by changing the house rules that..uhoh,anyone how that rule change took place?Does the name Jim Wright ring a bell? ..You guys crack me up..if it were'nt for the fact that everyone's got there head up the elephant's ass,I'd give a shit..except that the country has gone to hell under Dumya and the GOP..or have'nt you noticed....old wisdom reads,'when you got your head up somebody's ass.it's tough to see where your goin'...

this is pitiful

I tried to see things from your point of view.....

 

But I couldn't get my head that far up my Ass!  

...pc my point was...THINK FOR YOUR SELF ..you can get your head out of your ass any time you wish.. :wave:

[Royce]

Well All! I live eight miles from the Missouri and 12 miles from the Arkansas Border! I was wondering why 80% of the people working at the chicken plants only speak Spanish? They say They are from Texas but I have never met anyone my age that didn't speak English That was born in The USA. They never raid the plants looking for people that are not suppost to be here! I don't think they are really looking! Later Royce.

[FiremanDave]

On the plus side now you can get some decent Mexican food in Arkansas...LOL

[jaycox]

On the plus side now you can get some decent Mexican food in Arkansas...LOL

Yeah Tex Mex

[whadayawant]

POWER,GREED,FEAR,and MONEY,have'nt taken over. they've always been the leading factor in politics.

[XUXAW]

Hillary Clinton for President

 

It's amazing how the whole campaign has caught on. The thought of the former First Lady Of The United States running for President of The United States of America in 2008 is truly amazing.

 

In New York City, everybody has a "Run, Hillary, Run!" bumper

sticker on his or her car.

 

Democrats put them on their rear bumpers.

 

Republicans put them on the front.

 

 

[Guest_ikonboard]

I hate to say it but , even Democrats wont vote for Hillary , at this time men wont (and there arent many democrat men left) . If for some reason she sneaks in , she'll be shot before she ever makes it to the platform to accept !

 

Of course the democrats will immediately blame Bush and the Republicans , but it will come from there own party , people will surround themselves with grief and they'll turn the democratic to party for hope!

 

One good thing will be the mass orgies and public affection that the democrats are good at , lets have a "sit in" protest ,and while were here in the full public view will have sex with anyone and everyone! Its the democrat way !

 

Anyone remember the original "dawn of the dead" when the hillbillys are drinking beers sniping the zobies? Yep when the degradation gets that bad , we'll be out there like the hillbillys drinking beer and sniping the leftwingers !

[XUXAW]

I hate to say it but , even Democrats wont vote for Hillary , at this time men wont (and there arent many democrat men left) . If for some reason she sneaks in , she'll be shot before she ever makes it to the platform to accept !

 

Of course the democrats will immediately blame Bush and the Republicans , but it will come from there own party , people will surround themselves with grief and they'll turn the democratic to party for hope!

 

One good thing will be the mass orgies and public affection that the democrats are good at , lets have a "sit in" protest ,and while were here in the full public view will have sex with anyone and everyone! Its the democrat way !

 

Anyone remember the original "dawn of the dead" when the hillbillys are drinking beers sniping the zobies? Yep when the degradation gets that bad , we'll be out there like the hillbillys drinking beer and sniping the leftwingers !

Ignorance is bliss, until the truth catches up with you