KC Cheef Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 OK---here we go again. I just saw photos of the new Clinton Library. I swear it looks like a hard on with a set of balls hanging on it. I have a little background in the interpretation of modern art, and the symbolism, and nuance is there! (Ok no background in art, but I did read Mad magazine when I was a young'un) I personally think it's Bill's way of thumbing his nose at us one more time!! I'm calling Sheppard Smith!! This could be a news story!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo94 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Sounds fitting. I hear it has a scandal/impeachment wing, but no blue dress!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkchop Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I'll bet it has a hitch on it.. Looks like I could pull my truck up to it and tow it away.. Bet it's got a hitch. Heard it is made of teflon and glass.. Who's got a picture? Click here! counter clinton library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldev Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Looks like a double wide up on blocks. Fitting if you ask me. Give it a year and you'll see...people will start to abandon cars in front of it thinking it's a vacant lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_ikonboard Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I would have thought the liberals in here would be making a big thing out of the draft dodgers new trailer park! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottdog Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Which dodger are you talking about? Bill or George? Heard it was the first Library Bushy has ever been in. Not that I even give a shit about dodging that war. If you had an opportunity to get out of it then all the power to you. Just don't lie to us by denying it. Be proud you are alive! We were probably better off not having them there anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DienCaiDau Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 The library has one book in it.... sex, lies and video tape, by Monica! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldev Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Which dodger are you talking about? Bill or George? Hillary. She claimed to be a woman on her medical form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkchop Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Wonder if this is mentioned in the library. People Clinton Pardoned the hard way! From the Counter Clinton Library Counter Clinton Library January 28, 2004 People Bill Didn't Need to Pardon 1. James McDougal Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation. 2. Mary Mahoney A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House. 3. Vince Foster Former white House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head; ruled a suicide. 4. Ron Brown Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. 5. C. Victor Raiser II & 6. Montgomery Raiser Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization. Died in a private plane crash in July 1992. 7. Paul Tulley Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor". 8. Ed Willey Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events. 9. Jerry Parks Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died, the files were mysteriously removed from his house. 10. James Bunch Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas. 11. James Wilson Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater. 12. Kathy Ferguson Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones. 13. Bill Shelton Arkansas State Trooper, and fianc e of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fianc e, he was found dead in June, 1994, of a gunshot wound at the grave site of his fianc e. Also ruled a suicide. 14. Gandy Baugh Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor. 15. Florence Martin Accountant and subcontractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds. 16. Suzanne Coleman Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head; ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death. 17. Paula Grober Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident. 18. Danny Casolaro Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation. 19. Paul Wilcher Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death. 20. Jon Parnell Walker Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corporation. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal. 21. Barbara Wise Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce. 22. Charles Meissner Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance. Died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash. 23. Dr. Stanley Heard Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee. Died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council, personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother. 24. Barry Seal Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas; death was no accident. 25. Johnny Lawhorn Jr. Mechanic Found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole. 26. Stanley Huggins Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released. 27. Hershell Friday Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded. 28. Kevin Ives & 29. Don Henry Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death claimed "due to falling asleep on railroad tracks." Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. The following persons had information in the Ives/Henry case: 30. Keith Coney Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 88. 31. Keith McMaskle Died. (A slight understatement) Stabbed 113 times, Nov 1988 32. Gregory Collins Died from a gunshot wound January 1989. 33. Jeff Rhodes He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989. 34. James Milan Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes". 35. Jordan Kettleson Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990. 36. Richard Winters A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a setup robbery July 1989. The following Clinton bodyguards are dead: 37. Major William S. Barkley Jr. 38. Captain Scott J. Reynolds 39. Sgt. Brian Hanley 40. Sgt. Tim Sabel 41. Major General William Robertson 42. Col. William Densberger 43. Col. Robert Kelly 44. Spec. Gary Rhodes 45. Steve Willis 46. Robert Williams 47. Conway LeBleu 48. Todd McKeehan Our sympathies are extended to the families of the deceased. Counter Clinton Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_ikonboard Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I would have thought the liberals in here would be making a big thing out of the draft dodgers new trailer park! You have to remember, for some people (on both sides) it only matters when the other groups guy does it. And if the other guy did not do it they will dig and dig until they can make it seem like he did. All while forget that a few years ago they went to the mat saying that this type of situation did not matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaycox Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Hahaha man you guys slay me sometimes, Why dont you guys just simply say I hate all fucking Democrates and be done with it. Every President gets his own Library usually in his home town, the site use to be an useless old abandoned warehouse and since its start date has brought over 1 Billion to Little Rock economy man let the man have his day, he by far isnt the worst President we've had. And look at it this way it was built off Private Funds so it didnt cost us a dime. What will George Jr's library have in it 875 Trillion one dollar bills enough to wrap around the world 15 times or better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkchop Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 Ever drive thru Arkansas on Hwy 40 and read the signs..... Hope, Arkansas............ Birthplace of President Bill Clinton Hot Springs, Arkansas..... Home of President Bill Clinton Little Rock, Arkansas,... First Capitol President Bill Clinton called Home. Now you look at the Library a tribute to Arkansas and his Presidency You notice it looks like a doublewide trailer..How apropro... No wonder Arkansans keep voting for Republican Presidents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_ikonboard Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Your dreaming if you think it didnt cost us a dime , it cost us millions! And by the way Scott , I havent been inside a library myself in at least 20 years have you! All those librarys cost the tax payer money it aint free and most of the money does not come without a price , all the businesss that contribute get something out of it , it aint just for posterity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottdog Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Ever drive thru Arkansas on Hwy 40 and read the signs..... Hope, Arkansas............ Birthplace of President Bill Clinton Hot Springs, Arkansas..... Home of President Bill Clinton Little Rock, Arkansas,... First Capitol President Bill Clinton called Home. Now you look at the Library a tribute to Arkansas and his Presidency You notice it looks like a doublewide trailer..How apropro... No wonder Arkansans keep voting for Republican Presidents Don't forget that sign in Little Rock that reads, "Wall Drug - 1086 Miles" "Bill Clinton Had A Drink Of Water There" And by the way Scott , I havent been inside a library myself in at least 20 years have you! As a matter of fact I have, a couple years ago, and at least you have been in one before. Hey 02IndianSpiritRider, did you know your avitar doesn't show up for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest_ikonboard Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Hell I was at Wall Drug 20 years ago as well! I remember heading to Sturgis in 1980 and farting around wall drug , probably the same population there now as then (5) , give or take a few! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottdog Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 I was there in 86'. Saw the first sign for it in Minnisota. "WALL DRUG - 500 MILES" And another one every 10 miles after that. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Wonder if this is mentioned in the library. People Clinton Pardoned the hard way! From the Counter Clinton Library Counter Clinton Library January 28, 2004 People Bill Didn't Need to Pardon 1. James McDougal Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation. 2. Mary Mahoney A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House. 3. Vince Foster Former white House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head; ruled a suicide. 4. Ron Brown Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. 5. C. Victor Raiser II & 6. Montgomery Raiser Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization. Died in a private plane crash in July 1992. 7. Paul Tulley Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor". 8. Ed Willey Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events. 9. Jerry Parks Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died, the files were mysteriously removed from his house. 10. James Bunch Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas. 11. James Wilson Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater. 12. Kathy Ferguson Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones. 13. Bill Shelton Arkansas State Trooper, and fianc e of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fianc e, he was found dead in June, 1994, of a gunshot wound at the grave site of his fianc e. Also ruled a suicide. 14. Gandy Baugh Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor. 15. Florence Martin Accountant and subcontractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds. 16. Suzanne Coleman Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head; ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death. 17. Paula Grober Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident. 18. Danny Casolaro Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation. 19. Paul Wilcher Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death. 20. Jon Parnell Walker Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corporation. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal. 21. Barbara Wise Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce. 22. Charles Meissner Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance. Died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash. 23. Dr. Stanley Heard Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee. Died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council, personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother. 24. Barry Seal Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas; death was no accident. 25. Johnny Lawhorn Jr. Mechanic Found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole. 26. Stanley Huggins Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released. 27. Hershell Friday Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded. 28. Kevin Ives & 29. Don Henry Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death claimed "due to falling asleep on railroad tracks." Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. The following persons had information in the Ives/Henry case: 30. Keith Coney Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 88. 31. Keith McMaskle Died. (A slight understatement) Stabbed 113 times, Nov 1988 32. Gregory Collins Died from a gunshot wound January 1989. 33. Jeff Rhodes He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989. 34. James Milan Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes". 35. Jordan Kettleson Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990. 36. Richard Winters A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a setup robbery July 1989. The following Clinton bodyguards are dead: 37. Major William S. Barkley Jr. 38. Captain Scott J. Reynolds 39. Sgt. Brian Hanley 40. Sgt. Tim Sabel 41. Major General William Robertson 42. Col. William Densberger 43. Col. Robert Kelly 44. Spec. Gary Rhodes 45. Steve Willis 46. Robert Williams 47. Conway LeBleu 48. Todd McKeehan Our sympathies are extended to the families of the deceased. Counter Clinton Library It just became clear why my beloved Republican Party does so well in Clinton's home state......the Dems keep killing each other! And oh yes Scottwhatever....I don't hate Democraps, just their goofy fucking beliefs that they and only they know what is best for me and my family. That as a member of the general public that I'm too stupid to make decisions on my own and should just keep sending more and more tax dollars to support their efforts of government mind control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkchop Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Elitist vs Populist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Mike Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 My twenty-one year old son, who generally has a unique perspective, but is an arch-conservative, offered me his definition of a 'liberal'. "Someone so open-minded their brains are falling out." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkchop Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Former US Rep. Mel Reynolds D Chicago was a personal guest of former Pres Bill Clinton at the dedication of his library in Little Rock Arkansas last week.. For all of you Clinton lovers nationally here is a local connection to the scumbag and his scumbag buddies. One of his last minute pardons or clemencies that the Media didn't report nationwide (go figure) too occupied with Marc Rich but this guy is as big a criminal. Close Clinton fiend.... MEL AND BILL: BOSOM BUDDIES Lost in the hoopla is Clinton's repugnant clemency action for former Congress-man Mel Reynolds. There was no quid pro quo here. No cash contribution - or new living room couch. Just a heartfelt gesture of sympathy from one big creep to another. Clinton ordered Reynolds released from federal prison - and commuted the remaining two years of his term. A federal jury convicted Reynolds, in 1997, on 15 charges of bank fraud, wire fraud and lying to the Federal Election Commission. Reynolds had also been convicted in 1995 - by an Illinois jury - on two counts of solicitation of child pornography, three counts of aggravated sexual abuse, and four counts of obstruction of justice. Reynolds and Clinton - who jogged and made campaign appearances together - had a lot in common: Both were Southern Democrats. Both were Rhodes Scholars. Both were manipulative, vengeful and voracious. Both abused their offices, humiliated their families and their constituents, and lied repeatedly under oath. Both blamed Republicans, the media and their victims for their sordid downfalls. Both shared the Rev. Jesse Jackson, as a spiritual counselor. And neither, to this day, has shown an ounce of true remorse for his behavior. Rev. Jackson - now, himself, a professional penitent - argued, along with other supporters, that Reynolds had paid his dues. But, that's not what the court record shows: At his federal trial, Reynolds was obscenely defiant. He threatened a key witness by mouthing, "You son of a bitch!" - while the man was on the stand. Reynolds also made a vulgar gesture at the witness - who had testified that Reynolds had ordered him to withhold subpoenaed campaign-finance documents. The incensed judge ruled not only that Reynolds had attempted to intimidate the witness - but, also that he lied to the court and the jury, concealed and destroyed evidence, and failed to take responsibility for laundering union political contributions, hiding debts in order to obtain bank loans, and ordering aides to illegally cash at least $164,000 in campaign donations for non-campaign use. f that weren't shameful enough, Reynolds also had repeated adulterous sexual encounters with an underage campaign volunteer, Beverly Heard - whom he'd met, when he cruised her Chicago high school in his Cadillac. They carried on in his legislative office and at a nearby apartment. Reynolds gave the then-16-year-old girl cash, at each meeting, and supplied her with his pager number and apartment keys. In explicit, taped, phone conversations, they reminisced about group sex encounters with another woman, laughed about Reynolds' crude name for Heard's genitalia - and casually discussed Reynolds' three young children, while planning a sexual tryst with a 15-year-old Catholic high school girl that Heart had said wanted to have sex with him. "Did I just win the lotto?" Reynolds chortled, after Heard made the offer. Reynolds instructed Heard to take Polaroid photographs of the 15-year-old girl's genitals and breasts. No "face shots", Reynolds ordered. Reynolds' lawyers dismissed the talk as harmless fantasy. In classic Clintonian style, Reynolds smeared his young accuser as a "liar" and a "nut case". A diverse jury of six blacks and six whites believe the troubled girl - not the conniving Rhodes Scholar. Yet, Reynolds bitterly blamed racism in a 40-minute courtroom tirade: "When they shackle me … like they shackled my slave ancestors … and take me off to jail, nobody in this room is going to see me crawl." He called reporters who covered the case "animals". As always, the cover-up did Reynolds in. Swing jurors were disturbed by a $4,500 bank withdrawal Reynolds had made - in an obvious attempt to send Heard out of state and obstruct justice. Reynolds also bullied law enforcement officials - and had his employees type up recantation affidavits for Heard to sign. In granting clemency, Clinton must have given his fellow Rhodes Scholar extra points for his hubris, chutzpah and sneering indignation. To these loathsome bosom buddies, soiling public office means never having to say you're sorry. The name of the congressman who replaced Mel Reynolds is Jesse Jackson Jr. Go figure! I wanna move! :veryangry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catthief31 Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Whoa, disturbing Porkchop. Seems like so many can't get past that "cult of personality" that Clinton has.... Anyone catch Dennis Millers comments about the new library? "There is no admission, just leave your money on dresser....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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