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Honesty

Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about his sex life. George Bush is applauded for overthrowing two governments (three, if you count Haiti) based on deception. He lied about the threat of Iraq, he lied about the cost, and he lied about the expected outcome. He lied about the purpose of his tax cuts, he lied about education, the environment, energy, and his own past. He lied about the cost of Medicare. Everything he says is choreographed to achieve political gain without consideration for the truth. In Bush's administration, truth takes a back seat to power every time.

War

History will not be kind to George Bush. In two years he overthrew two governments, and has his eyes on several others. He has ignored the UN, the US public, and 90% of the rest of the world, including millions who protested in the streets. He has violated the US Constitution and international law by attacking Iraq when it was not a threat to anyone. In his empire-building march across the Middle East, he has wasted the lives of thousands. History will wonder why no one stopped him.

Economy

As soon as people saw that Bush might get elected in 2000, the economy started to fall, helped by Bush's talk of recession. He, of course, tried to blame Clinton. Since then, the economy has dipped in and out of recession, a million jobs have evaporated, deficits are soaring, and Bush's only response is to cut taxes for the wealthy. Every few months he promises that jobs are just around the corner -- if Congress will only approve my tax cuts -- but month after month job statistics give substance to the lie. Bush seems bent on destroying the very institution he heads.

Liberties

Yes, we need to catch terrorists, but we don't need a police state to do it. John Ashcroft has shown no concern for personal liberties, only for catching the "bad guys." Is it really necessary for the government to know what books you read? Is it necessary to read your e-mail? Must librarians be gagged? This slide toward Fascism is as scary as anything else Bush does. And rather than scale back the most egregious aspects of the act, Bush wants to make it even more intrusive.

Taxes

No one likes taxes, but we all pay them in hopes that the government will provide the services we need and want: schools, highways, bridges, and security. Bush, like Reagan before him, intends to choke the government down to size. By cutting taxes, primarily for the wealthy, deficits soar and nothing is left for education, the environment, social programs (including Social Security) or necessary regulation of corporations. After spending $800 billion a year (by independent estimates) on a bloated military, there is no money for books, no money for highways, not even money for the soldiers who must fight his wars. There is no money. But schools must remain open, roads must be repaired, and the sick must find treatment; all this is left to the state and local governments, which are now raising taxes, firing teachers, and cutting services.

Environment

One of his first acts as president was to raise the allowable level of arsenic in drinking water. Since then, we have seen a continuous assault on the forests, the air, the water, and the land. Global warming threatens to wreak havoc on our economy, our food supply, and our social fabric, but Bush only listens to the scientists on the political right, and they see no reason to panic. Don't worry, be happy.

International Relations

When you're the strongest nation by a factor of ten, you don't need to play nice. You can be a bully, and if other countries don't like it, too bad. Under Bush, we've seen this arrogant attitude regularly. He walked away from Kyoto, from the land mine treaty, from the international women's rights treaty, and the international criminal court. He ignored the pleas of long-time allies to avoid war, insulting them childishly. It will be decades before we can regain the respect of the world.

Secrecy

This is the most secret administration in memory. Decisions are clearly being made by corporations and far-right interest groups, but Bush refuses to admit it or to say who is behind such important policies as energy. Government can only be trusted in the sunlight, and this government hides at undisclosed locations.

Military

We spend more on our military than the rest of the world combined. While most of us appreciate the sense of security a strong military brings, we also question the wisdom of such spending when we have no clear enemy. Iraq was overthrown for about $100 billion. We spend four times that every year on the military. And now Bush wants to build a magical missile shield that no one believes will actually work. Oh, it will cost many billions, and a few select corporations will get rich, but meanwhile we have other needs, desperate needs, that are not being met. We don't even have health care for all our children. We can't even provide breakfast for all our children, or books, or decent schools. But we can kill bad guys better than anyone. And if Bush has his way, we will soon be dropping tactical nuclear bombs on them.

Corruption

The line between corporations and the government has disappeared during the Bush administration. Corporations give money to elect Bush, then Bush forms policies and rules that favor those same corporations. This is nowhere more evident than in the energy industry, which has sent millions to Bush in the form of campaign contributions, then received billions in return. Think Bush, Cheney, Bechtel, Halliburton, Schultz.

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Honesty

Bill Clinton was impeached for lying about his sex life. George Bush is applauded for overthrowing two governments (three, if you count Haiti) based on deception. He lied about the threat of Iraq, he lied about the cost, and he lied about the expected outcome. He lied about the purpose of his tax cuts, he lied about education, the environment, energy, and his own past. He lied about the cost of Medicare. Everything he says is choreographed to achieve political gain without consideration for the truth. In Bush's administration, truth takes a back seat to power every time.

War

History will not be kind to George Bush. In two years he overthrew two governments, and has his eyes on several others. He has ignored the UN, the US public, and 90% of the rest of the world, including millions who protested in the streets. He has violated the US Constitution and international law by attacking Iraq when it was not a threat to anyone. In his empire-building march across the Middle East, he has wasted the lives of thousands. History will wonder why no one stopped him.

Economy

As soon as people saw that Bush might get elected in 2000, the economy started to fall, helped by Bush's talk of recession. He, of course, tried to blame Clinton. Since then, the economy has dipped in and out of recession, a million jobs have evaporated, deficits are soaring, and Bush's only response is to cut taxes for the wealthy. Every few months he promises that jobs are just around the corner -- if Congress will only approve my tax cuts -- but month after month job statistics give substance to the lie. Bush seems bent on destroying the very institution he heads.

Liberties

Yes, we need to catch terrorists, but we don't need a police state to do it. John Ashcroft has shown no concern for personal liberties, only for catching the "bad guys." Is it really necessary for the government to know what books you read? Is it necessary to read your e-mail? Must librarians be gagged? This slide toward Fascism is as scary as anything else Bush does. And rather than scale back the most egregious aspects of the act, Bush wants to make it even more intrusive.

Taxes

No one likes taxes, but we all pay them in hopes that the government will provide the services we need and want: schools, highways, bridges, and security. Bush, like Reagan before him, intends to choke the government down to size. By cutting taxes, primarily for the wealthy, deficits soar and nothing is left for education, the environment, social programs (including Social Security) or necessary regulation of corporations. After spending $800 billion a year (by independent estimates) on a bloated military, there is no money for books, no money for highways, not even money for the soldiers who must fight his wars. There is no money. But schools must remain open, roads must be repaired, and the sick must find treatment; all this is left to the state and local governments, which are now raising taxes, firing teachers, and cutting services.

Environment

One of his first acts as president was to raise the allowable level of arsenic in drinking water. Since then, we have seen a continuous assault on the forests, the air, the water, and the land. Global warming threatens to wreak havoc on our economy, our food supply, and our social fabric, but Bush only listens to the scientists on the political right, and they see no reason to panic. Don't worry, be happy.

International Relations

When you're the strongest nation by a factor of ten, you don't need to play nice. You can be a bully, and if other countries don't like it, too bad. Under Bush, we've seen this arrogant attitude regularly. He walked away from Kyoto, from the land mine treaty, from the international women's rights treaty, and the international criminal court. He ignored the pleas of long-time allies to avoid war, insulting them childishly. It will be decades before we can regain the respect of the world.

Secrecy

This is the most secret administration in memory. Decisions are clearly being made by corporations and far-right interest groups, but Bush refuses to admit it or to say who is behind such important policies as energy. Government can only be trusted in the sunlight, and this government hides at undisclosed locations.

Military

We spend more on our military than the rest of the world combined. While most of us appreciate the sense of security a strong military brings, we also question the wisdom of such spending when we have no clear enemy. Iraq was overthrown for about $100 billion. We spend four times that every year on the military. And now Bush wants to build a magical missile shield that no one believes will actually work. Oh, it will cost many billions, and a few select corporations will get rich, but meanwhile we have other needs, desperate needs, that are not being met. We don't even have health care for all our children. We can't even provide breakfast for all our children, or books, or decent schools. But we can kill bad guys better than anyone. And if Bush has his way, we will soon be dropping tactical nuclear bombs on them.

Corruption

The line between corporations and the government has disappeared during the Bush administration. Corporations give money to elect Bush, then Bush forms policies and rules that favor those same corporations. This is nowhere more evident than in the energy industry, which has sent millions to Bush in the form of campaign contributions, then received billions in return. Think Bush, Cheney, Bechtel, Halliburton, Schultz.

I am quoting this only so you can't pull any BS about being censored again

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You forgot about Bill Clinton lied about the threat of terrorists attacks on American soil and how he brokered a deal wich in turn let Osama Bin Laden walk scott free!

 

I know people who have done prison sentences for lying under oath , not Bill Clinton , of course most people who have had disagreement with the Clintons have become dead people, under mysterious unsolved circumstances , but enough about assholes like the Clintons!

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FTW!! Take care of our interest and our people and the hell with the rest. They all bite the perverbial hand that feeds them over and over. Take what we want if they dont like it to bad. In case you dont know this planet is only going to exist another century for a hundred reasons if were lucky. Make the best of it now!

 

Screw Kerry! Vote for Bush! All you Kerry sympathizers can suck it!

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<<a million jobs have evaporated>> and 2 million jobs have taken their place.

 

<<While most of us appreciate the sense of security a strong military brings, we also question the wisdom of such spending when we have no clear enemy.>> We do not question the spending (speaking as part of the nebulous we). Furthermore, just because we don't know clearly who the enemy is, doesn't mean we don't have an enemy. The chickenshit mulla bastards are hiding their faces so we can't determine who they are.

 

<<We don't even have health care for all our children.>> And why should we. It is the responsibility of the parents to ensure they have the means to support bringing another life into this world, not mine. Besides, children are the most renewable resource this world has. Cold, yes, but true. Screw the crack babies, our society doesn't need them. They will do nothing but muddy the gene pool.

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dubya's a lying piece of fucking inbreed shit and even worse than his fucking daddy...
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remember three thousand dead on 9/11?  

 

Remember ten years of UN breach of weapons restrictions?

 

Remember the refusal of UN weapons inspections?

 

Remember the aluminum pipes ? ( claimed to be for rockets, but uselful only for uranium enrichment operations )

 

Remember the unmanned drones ( prohibited by UN sanctions ) outfitted to spray aresol

 

Remember the russian high - tech fighter planes unearthed ( buried with their wings removed )

 

 

 

the UN wouldn't act.  We did.  Too bad we waited until AFTER the trade centers went down.

 

The war was justified.  You are myopic and suffering from short - term memory loss.

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The Bush strategy is clear. Use wedge issues to divide America. Work overtime to distort John Kerry's record. And use Bush's campaign war chest to try to cover up his failed record.

 

We must make it absolutely clear that the only choice in November 2004 is between Bush's brand of militaristic imperialism-police state-crony capitalism and John Kerry's sane military, economic, and civil liberties policies benefitting all Americans.

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John Kerry's sane military, economic, and civil liberties policies benefitting all Americans.

You are fucking delusional......

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The Bush strategy is clear. Use wedge issues to divide America. Work overtime to distort John Kerry's record. And use Bush's campaign war chest to try to cover up his failed record.

 

We must make it absolutely clear that the only choice in November 2004 is between Bush's brand of militaristic imperialism-police state-crony capitalism and John Kerry's sane military, economic, and civil liberties policies benefitting all Americans.

Now I get it!! Dam you had me going!!!

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You are one funny motherfucker!!!!

 

I was starting to think you were crazy but now I see you just wanted to keep pushing until we could see your sarcasm.

 

I mean anyone who says that Bush, Bush supporters or people who do not think Kerry is a good choice for the USA are distorting John Kerry's record has to be kidding.

 

With all the TV, magazine and newspaper interviews he has done since the 1970’s, with his Senate record of 20 years what need is there to distort? And lets say there has been some distortion, if it is that far off the mark it would be easy to see.

 

The only person trying to distort Kerry’s past is Kerry. Unless of course you feel that being 27 years old you are still just a kid.

 

"MR. RUSSERT: And people refer back to an interview when you first ran for Congress, back with The Harvard Crimson, where you said, "Kerry said the United Nations should have control over most of our foreign military operations. I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations."

 

SEN. KERRY: That's one of those stupid things that a 27-year-old kid says ..." –

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"MR. RUSSERT: Before we take a break, I want to talk about Vietnam. You are a decorated war hero of Vietnam, prominently used in your advertising. You first appeared on MEET THE PRESS back in 1971, your first appearance. I want to roll what you told the country then and come back and talk about it:

 

(Videotape, MEET THE PRESS, April 18, 1971):

 

MR. KERRY (Vietnam Veterans Against the War): There are all kinds of atrocities and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50-caliber machine guns which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search-and-destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare. All of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free-fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals.

 

(End videotape)

 

MR. RUSSERT: You committed atrocities.

 

SEN. KERRY: Where did all that dark hair go, Tim? That's a big question for me. You know, I

thought a lot, for a long time, about that period of time, the things we said, and I think the word is a bad word. I think it's an inappropriate word. I mean, if you wanted to ask me have you ever made mistakes in your life, sure. I think some of the language that I used was a language that reflected an anger. It was honest, but it was in anger, it was a little bit excessive.

 

MR. RUSSERT: You used the word "war criminals."

 

SEN. KERRY: Well, let me just finish. Let me must finish. It was, I think, a reflection of the kind of times we found ourselves in and I don't like it when I hear it today. I don't like it, but I want you to notice that at the end, I wasn't talking about the soldiers and the soldiers' blame, and my great regret is, I hope no soldier--I mean, I think some soldiers were angry at me for that, and I understand that and I regret that, because I love them. But the words were honest but on the other hand, they were a little bit over the top. And I think that there were breaches of the Geneva Conventions. There were policies in place that were not acceptable according to the laws of warfare, and everybody knows that. I mean, books have chronicled that, so I'm not going to walk away from that. But I wish I had found a way to say it in a less abrasive way."

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:no: ...OK...Kerry has changed his mind on issues over time when new factual data emerges.The factual data in this case has been  'intellegence' data,which far from being distorted by the lens of the political spin by the Bush cronies,has only been more objectively evaluated piecemeal  in congressional subcommitee and the 9-11 commission.

When initial factual data is revised,only a fool,an incompetent person or a deceptive SOB remains with his feet in the cement of his position, yelling more loudly how everyone else is wrong and he is right....weapons of mass...Dick who?Flip flop?..Anyone remember 'W ' saying we had no business 'nation building'..what the fukk is going on here folks...deception?..well  MAY..beee.

People like architects and engineers who have a license at stake make damn sure of their facts and figures...as they are held legally accountable .In govt ,however,the most clever at manipuating the facts take home the bacon...in case you did'nt notice the election data debaucle in Florida that brought us 'W' ...

Wake up and smell the roses,like they say folks... :shocked: ...

 

Ride Safe ...Live Long

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he, he, he,  i was waiting to see someone bring up that last election,     that farce   you would think that the right of the people to choose their leaders would be one of the most

highly argued issues in this election

i'm not a strong supporter of either of the choices but then again i keep hoping someday i can whole heartedly vote for someone rather than use my vote trying to keep someone out of office

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Who failed who?

How many resolutions were there by the UN for Iraq to peacefully show they didn't have any WMD's? How many times can you ask the UN to do something before you have do it yourself?

The radical militant Muslems hate as & want us infidels DEAD! PERIOD! The radicals don't have a country just for them so starting the elimination process in Afganistan & Iraq is just as good a place as any. Fighting in Iraq has kept them very busy, helped to depleat their funds & kept them out of our face. If they were left free to run amuck how many more of us may have been killed here in the good ol USA? I would venture to bet it would have been a hell of a lot more then were killed in Iraq. Hell it was more with just the world trade bldg. alone now that I think about it. At least the ones that died over there took a lot of "good" muslems with them. That would not have happened if we just let them kill us over here would it? I guess we should have just kept on kissing the UN's ass afterall who really cares how many Americans die.

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:cppl1 W is going to win this election, possibly win big, because there is still a "silent" majority in this country that respect a "stick to your guns" attitude, and many more who are sick and tired of having to apologize for being a great country.  The homosexual-controlled media is doing everything it can to foster a feeling of hatred for anything and anyone who doesn't kiss their collective asses and let them put our moral structure further into the toilet than it already is.  They will all eventually burn in hell, but while they're here we should do everything in our power to push them back into the closet, to keep their sick perversion from splattering on our children and our children's children in the name of "freedom of expression".  Bullshit!  Sickness and Moral Depravity should be called Sickness and Moral Depravity, not "exercising personal choice".  We have a President that will stand up to the bullshit artists, both foreign and domestic, and we should be damn well glad to have him!
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Go ahead and vote for that traitor ! Are you people fucking blind? I dont give a shit if Kerry was in Vietnam for 10 fucking years , he came back and denounced his own country and shit on every veteran who served our country!

 

Dont come near me on the road , I cant ride with people who have that chickenshit mentality ! Why dont you guys have an Indian run for Kerry and invite Jane Fonda , Martin Sheen , Barbara Striesand , the dixie chicks and all the other traitorous fucks!

 

John Kerry is a fucking traitor to his own country!

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22 going on 30 years in the military and I'm pround that my

"Commander in Chief" is not afraid to let me do my job and kick some butt!!!  He also stands behind us 100 percent!!!!!!!

There is no place for an indecisive leader.

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Go ahead and vote for that traitor ! Are you people fucking blind? I dont give a shit if Kerry was in Vietnam for 10 fucking years , he came back and denounced his own country and shit on every veteran who served our country!

 

Dont come near me on the road , I cant ride with people who have that chickenshit mentality ! Why dont you guys have an Indian run for Kerry and invite Jane Fonda , Martin Sheen , Barbara Striesand , the dixie chicks and all the other traitorous fucks!

 

John Kerry is a fucking traitor to his own country!

 

 

                So much anger

 

 

 

 

    ~ The hardest thing to accomplish in life is redirecting your own entropy ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Not anger, I just want to continue being an American , and with all the Kerry thinkers out there , we'll be part of the federated communities of the world . and naturally since our economy is well off , we'll be picking up the tab for everyone else until our economy is in shambles!

 

John Kerry is a Traitor , if you ever served your country you'd know that! I suppose you voted for Bill Clinton and look up to him as a hero ! He's another draft dogder , traitor! Why your Bill Clinton even went to Russia and denounced his American citizenship!

 

Im not saying you have to have served in our great military , but you must at least be proud of our men and women in uniform and thank God they have made the sacrifices they have . I know the pacifists are saying we didnt need to go to Iraq or Vietnam , or wherever , yes we did the spread of Communism wasnt something that could be tolerated for a free people , it was like the plague and spread rapidly , maybe not to our shores but to our friends shores

 

This holds true with Iraq , I suppose you feel Iran is our friend? Or Syria , not even close , Israel ? only when it benefits them . In a perfect world all these assholes would be our friends , they are not our friends . If your house has mice do you let them breed and multiply? (Probably) , I wont stand for that shit!

 

You believe what you want , afterall hundreds of thousands of honorable men and women have sacrificed there lives in our great military so that you can have that right!

 

Make the smart choice , the right choice ! Think ahead , to the future ,would Kerry really be a good choice? He cant even decide whether to tie his shoes from the left over right or right over left , and when he does it the greatest thing since milk-duds , but tomorrow he changes back to the old way!

 

Could you imagine John Kerry as the president of Microsoft ? Scary!

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Go ahead and vote for that traitor ! Are you people fucking blind? I dont give a shit if Kerry was in Vietnam for 10 fucking years , he came back and denounced his own country and shit on every veteran who served our country!

 

Dont come near me on the road , I cant ride with people who have that chickenshit mentality ! Why dont you guys have an Indian run for Kerry and invite Jane Fonda , Martin Sheen , Barbara Striesand , the dixie chicks and all the other traitorous fucks!

 

John Kerry is a fucking traitor to his own country!

 

 

                So much anger

 

 

 

 

    ~ The hardest thing to accomplish in life is redirecting your own entropy ~

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Least we forget...

 

Peace For Our Time

by Neville Chamberlain

 

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The following is the wording of the printed statement that Neville Chamberlain waved as he stepped off the plane on 30 September, 1938 after the Munich Conference had ended the day before:

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"We, the German Führer and Chancellor, and the British Prime Minister, have had a further meeting today and are agreed in recognizing that the question of Anglo-German relations is of the first importance for our two countries and for Europe.

We regard the agreement signed last night and the Anglo-German Naval Agreement as symbolic of the desire of our two peoples never to go to war with one another again.

We are resolved that the method of consultation shall be the method adopted to deal with any other questions that may concern our two countries, and we are determined to continue our efforts to remove possible sources of difference, and thus to contribute to assure the peace of Europe."

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Chamberlain read the above statement in front of 10 Downing St. and said:

"My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time...

Go home and get a nice quiet sleep."

 

"You were given the choice between war and dishonor.

You chose dishonor and you will have war."

 

Winston Churchill

(1874-1965)

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in case you did'nt notice the election data debaucle in Florida that brought us 'W' ...

what debaucle?  

 

The popular vote is irrelevant.  The president is elected by the electoral college.   It is assumed that the popular vote is used as a guideline by the electoral college, but they have no legal commitment.  They can vote any way they choose.  

 

Read the constitution.

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