Brock Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickkciR Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 uh oh... I feel another multipage thread on whether this oil violates warranty, etc, etc, etc ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 if the dumbasses would read the Magnuson-Moss Act and learn the law rather than swallowing EVERYTHING their dealers tell them or the internet lawyers....it would not be needed. LOL Then again....this bunch has a nervous breakdown over bugs on windshields. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt95 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I read it on the internet, so it has to be true.......they can't post anything on the internet that isn't true!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keplumer Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I read it on the internet, so it has to be true.......they can't post anything on the internet that isn't true!!!!!!! Bon jure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenB Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 if the dumbasses would read the Magnuson-Moss Act and learn the law rather than swallowing EVERYTHING their dealers tell them or the internet lawyers....it would not be needed. LOL Then again....this bunch has a nervous breakdown over bugs on windshields. BUGS ON THE WINDSHIELD???? oh my god oh my god oh my god.. what am I going to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil"the grizz' Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Good shit Brock, put 60 wt. racing in the 53 and had to turn the idle down…... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassguy2 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 bullshit let that bastard explain on a video why mine is wore ass out everwhere using only amsoil, at 28,000 miles amsoil -amway all a scam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 glassguy...you dont know a fucking thing...it is not related to amway in any way. if your shit is worn out it is not from the oil but something else. i have used it for a very long time and never had issues myself and never knew ANYONE that had proven problems from Amsoil...it was ALWAYS something else...engine burned up before they switched and when it cleaned all the sludge out the engine oil passages clogged as the fucker did not change the filter and oil again after it did its cleaning.......... or they lost most of the oil from a loose oil filter or stripped out oil plug. oil is only part of the equation...if you treat your bike like shit...use cheap ass filters...and expect it to work miracles...then you will be disappointed. use high quality filters, change oil as recommended or sooner if exposed to extreme conditions....change it EVERY year whether it reaches mileage or not due to leeching of metals and oxidation over winter when not ridden.....then the oil is not the problem. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassguy2 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 glassguy...you dont know a fucking thing...it is not related to amway in any way. if your shit is worn out it is not from the oil but something else. i have used it for a very long time and never had issues myself and never knew ANYONE that had proven problems from Amsoil...it was ALWAYS something else...engine burned up before they switched and when it cleaned all the sludge out the engine oil passages clogged as the fucker did not change the filter and oil again after it did its cleaning.......... or they lost most of the oil from a loose oil filter or stripped out oil plug. oil is only part of the equation...if you treat your bike like shit...use cheap ass filters...and expect it to work miracles...then you will be disappointed. use high quality filters, change oil as recommended or sooner if exposed to extreme conditions....change it EVERY year whether it reaches mileage or not due to leeching of metals and oxidation over winter when not ridden.....then the oil is not the problem. after 39 motorcycles and a custom bike builder in the seventys i do know my shit sir , this bike has every service record from previous owner and the sand s trained mechanic agrees the shit does not protect the top end ,are you a dealer of this high priced shit? multi level marketing amway ,amsoil , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenB Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Brock, do you know of any aftermarket oil filters for our bikes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 Wix is who makes them for Indian I am told.....and have a part number somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 after 39 motorcycles and a custom bike builder in the seventys i do know my shit sir , this bike has every service record from previous owner and the sand s trained mechanic agrees the shit does not protect the top end ,are you a dealer of this high priced shit? multi level marketing amway ,amsoil , well with all your experience then you also know that if you have a VALID reason to say that Amsoil oil is snake oil and does not protect and perform as they claim....that you can go to them and they will warrant their oil against all damages of your bike and replace or repair at their expense. have you gone that route or just bitch and complain and blame the oil without doing that..... i have heard so many bullshit claims of too slippery or a mechanic said it was the full synthetic oil that caused my issues and blew my motor.....it just cant happen....it is still the same oil that comes out of the refinery like everyone else with modifications to the cellular structure and additives. I still call bullshit....plenty of documented maintenance records and problems are not what they seem. And over past 30 years I have had more than my fair share of "GREAT" mechanics bullshit me or friends with excuses and blame everywhere but themselves or the previous maintenance and Amsoil or any NON recommended oil, filter, spark plugs, aftermarket pipes or tunes are the EASY culprit. If it was really AMSOILs fault you could have made a claim....they would have asked for oil samples and bike evaluation....and if the OIL was the culprit and not poor maintenance, poor parts, shoddy mechanical work, or operator stupidity....they would make it right. I also know that for a fact.... Yes I am a dealer....but I never throw a sales pitch.....and only share info on the products.....and actually never sell retail either...I encourage everyone to get it as Preferred Customer...so not in it for the money. In it because the shit works and I have used it since I first became aware in late 80s....and ended up switching from Mobil 1 Syn to Amsoil fully in 90s. Sorry your bike got ruined but the cause WAS NOT oil....just does not happen like that even with non synthetic from a reputable brand. There is ALWAYS some other tidbit left out by mechanic or owner as it is TOO EASY to place the blame and call for a witchhunt. I see no difference here. Good Day Sir. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiantoo Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Bud 28k and broke down, THAT IS WHY THIS FORUM WAS FORMED!!! I am an outsider to certain issues of these Indians but these year Gilroy's had their problems when rolled off the assembly line. If the former owner only did what he usually does on a normal V-twin they missed something. ( I WAS UNDER THE SAME ASSUMPTION WHEN I FOUND MY 2K.) Riding over 40 years makes you think you have seen it all... WRONG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satdiver Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Interesting, but, 1. You should always be suspect (Leary might be a better word) from a company's own QC results, kinda like letting the wolf guard the hen house. 2. Would have been better to run the same test with another bike using regular motorcycle oil. 3. Would have been even better to run three or four bikes at the same time the same way, one with Amsoil, Redline, Royal Purple, regular motorcycle oil, then show the results of all the oil samples and open the engines, transmissions etc for inspection, then you would get a better unbiased opinion from Amsoil. Personally I run Redline in my 03 Chief without issue, of course I know I don't run my bike anywhere near as hard as many on this board do. So I would guess I could probably get away with regular motorcycle oil. good video though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) agree......that is what they did in the independent VTWIN Test that is published. If you go to the Amsoil Motorcycle Oil page and select 20w50 can see some comments by Eric Buell...which is pretty well known for pushing the limits on his bikes and the oil, filters, etc. Here is the independent test with a comparison of most current competitors with all results...the original study was in 2005 and this one followed same approach and included more oils. As you will see Amsoil does not always rate TOP in each tests but over the entire spectrum of desired results it averages VERY HIGH. There are others that do well too and I personally would never try to talk someone out of one of the top 3-4 oil manufactuers listed here.....as for most applications they will all do you right given the correct filtration and proper care as related to operation of bike and fluid changes as recommended. A Study of Motorcycle Oils (Second Edition) In the end.....you got to go with what you are most comfortable in putting in your bike for oil and filters. If that means Amsoil or Wix....or Mobil 1 oil and filters....or Torco V-Series...or HD Syn3...or Spectro Platinum.......pick one...use it with confidence and enjoy riding your bike. Edited November 15, 2014 by Brock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satdiver Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Good info, I don't doubt that any Synthetic blend would serve your needs. I guess its kinda like Aspirin, some like generic Aspirin, others swear by Bayer, yet others only buy Anacin, etc. Bottom line is all of them work. Now this looks like a good combination with Amsoil. http://www.drainplugmagnets.com/amsoilinfopage.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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