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LOS ANGELES (AP) — Astronomers think they have solved the mystery of an extraordinary flash spied in a faraway galaxy, saying it came from a massive black hole that devoured a star after it wandered too close.


The awesome energy released by the feeding frenzy was first detected by NASA's Swift satellite on March 28 and was later confirmed by a fleet of space and ground telescopes.


Some scientists initially thought the bright flash was a gamma-ray burst from a star collapsing, but flaring from such an event typically lasts only a few hours.


Instead of fading, the cosmic outburst continued to burn bright and emit high-energy radiation that could be observed even today.


Two separate teams pored through data and concluded that an unsuspecting star the size of our sun likely got sucked in by the powerful tug of a giant black hole. Until then, the black hole had been relatively inactive. The findings were published online Thursday in the journal Science.


As the black hole gobbled up the star, it streamed a beam of energy straight at Earth that was recorded by telescopes. The stellar feast occurred in the heart of a galaxy 3.8 billion light years from Earth. A light year is about 6 trillion miles.


"This was clearly different than anything we've ever seen before," said one of the team leaders, Joshua Bloom, an astronomer at the University of California, Berkeley who classified the event as extremely rare.


Black holes are swirling, super-dense cores of galaxies that vacuum up nearly everything in sight. How they grow so huge remains a mystery. Scientists think the latest observation could help them better understand how galaxies form.


Could what happened in the distant galaxy occur in our Milky Way? In theory yes, say scientists, but the chances are low.


"It's not something worth losing sleep over," said researcher Andrew Levan of University of Warwick in England, who led the other team.






Toronto Sun 6/17/11


A NASA artist's concept of a black hole (HO)



WASHINGTON - A monster black hole shredded a Sun-like star, producing a strangely long-lasting flash of gamma rays that probably won’t be seen again in a million years, astronomers reported Thursday.


That is definitely not the norm for gamma ray bursts, energetic blasts that typically flare up and end in a matter of seconds or milliseconds, often the sign of the death throes of a collapsing star.


“This is truly different from any explosive event we have seen before,” said Joshua Bloom of the University of California-Berkeley, a co-author of research on the blast published in the journal Science.


Initially spied on March 28 by NASA’s Swift spacecraft, which is trolling the universe for gamma ray bursts, this particular flash has lasted more than two months and is still going on, Bloom said in a telephone interview.


What makes this even stranger is that the black hole, located in the constellation Draco (The Dragon) about 4 billion light years, or 24 sextillion miles — 24 followed by 21 zeroes — from Earth, was sitting quietly, not eating much, when a star about the mass of our Sun moved into range.


“We have this otherwise dormant black hole, not gobbling up an appreciable amount of mass, and along comes this star which just happens to be on some orbit which puts it close to the black hole,” Bloom said.




“This was a black hole which was otherwise quiescent and it sort of has an impulsive feeding frenzy on this one star,” he said.


Bloom figures this may happen once per black hole per million years.


This kind of behavior is different from what active black holes generally do, which is to suck in everything their vast gravity can pull in, even light. Most galaxies, including our Milky Way, are thought to harbor black holes in their hearts.


Black holes are invisible, but astronomers can infer their existence because the material they pull in lights up before it gets sucked in.


In this case, though, the black hole feasted on one star — about the same mass as our Sun — with such relish that it tore the star apart before gulping it down. As it did so, the black hole emitted powerful gamma ray jets from its center as bits of the dying star were turned into energy.


The black hole’s gravitational pull was so great that it exerted what’s called a tidal disruption on the passing star.


Astronomers could use this observation to help them learn more about how black holes grow, Bloom said.


“We still don’t understand how black holes and the universe grow,” he said. “We think most black holes start off as being no more than the mass of our Sun ... How they go from 10 solar masses to a billion solar masses is critical.”


There is a strong connection between the mass of black holes and the mass of the galaxies that host them, with black holes feeding on gas and stars that come near.


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Or is it: Imaging old galaxies at the extents of the visible universe(12.8 billion light years away) does not suggest primordial galaxies it suggests the idea of seeing galaxies as they were in the past is possibly incorrect.


Light is a wave spectrum until observed. When the source of the light is observed the wave collapses and instantly transfers the information of what it looks like in the now via quantum entanglement. The light never even travels. The electrons pop into existence right when viewing the source...quantum physics for everyday life.


Are we seeing the "Nervous System" functioning for a 'Living Universe' in this phenomenon?




Most all gamma radiation bursts recorded in the past were events measured in mere minutes. There is a significant difference with this event. It is an ongoing & continuous event actively streaming the gamma radiation burst reportedly 'aimed at Earth' since it's discovery on March 28, 2011.

No one knows when this event will end...

Science has a unique opportunity to study this phenomenon with the GLAST satellite and earthbound installations. NASA should be fully funded again.

The Frontier Is Everywhere...






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Quantum Gravity - revealed by gamma ray bursts?


Gamma ray bursts - those terrific and mysterious flashes of high-energy light now considered to be probes to the farthest reaches of the Universe and earliest moments of time - may have yet another secret to reveal: quantum gravity.


Not yet observed in nature, quantum gravity is the long-sought missing link between Einstein's General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics, the two incongruous pillars of modern physics. NASA's Gamma-Ray Large Area Space Telescope (GLAST), planned for a 2005 launch, may be able to detect for the first time the effects of quantum gravity in the speed of gamma-ray burst photons, according to two NASA scientists.


The gist of this is that the gamma-ray bursts that GLAST detects will be powerful enough and distant enough to see the highest of the high-energy photons traveling slightly more slowly than lower-energy photons, weighed down by the effect of quantum gravity.


Drs. Jay Norris and Jerry Bonnell of NASA Goddard Space Flight Center did the math. The two observational astronomers said that only time will tell if GLAST will see this lag time, for the quantum gravity theory (and the numbers that go along with it) are still rather speculative.


A gamma-ray burst represents the greatest outpouring of energy the Universe has ever seen aside from the Big Bang. Each burst is as powerful as a billion trillion suns, and satellites detect a burst or two a day. As common as the bursts are, though, no one is certain about what causes them. They are seen only in the gamma-ray waveband, although their afterglows fade away slowly in the X-ray and optical realms.


Gamma-ray bursts were discovered in the late 1960s, decades after the concepts of General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics first spiced the physics lexicon.


General Relativity accounts for gravity, the force that acts across large scales. Quantum Mechanics, part of the Standard Model, describes the behavior of the other three fundamental forces: electromagnetism, weak forces (seen in radioactive decay), and strong forces (holding subatomic particles together). These three forces act over small scales, and each has a corresponding particle that transmits that force: namely, photons (for electromagnetism), gluons (for strong forces) and Z and W particles (for strong forces).


The hypothesized particle that would account for the force of gravity is the graviton. Now, a graviton is not something you can look for in a giant particle accelerator, unlike a Higgs Boson or other exotic particles. Scientists instead look for the effects of the graviton, such as in gravitational waves rocking objects in space or, in the case of the gamma-ray burst, gravitons slowing a passing photon.


In quantum mechanics, the vacuum of space is not a vacuum; rather, it is field with virtual particles, such as the graviton. Light passing through this field of virtual particles is refracted, just as it is when passing through water or any medium.


The graviton, being the essence of gravitational force, would interact with (or slow down) those particles with greater gravitational potential. With mass directly proportional to energy, as expressed in e=mc2, photons of higher energy have greater gravitational potential than lower-energy photons - as if they "weigh" more.


The highest-energy photons would therefore travel through space more slowly than lower-energy photons. (This does not violate the constancy of the speed of light, for light travels at the same speed only in an absolute vacuum.) To detect the very slight difference in photon speed, one needs an extremely distant source emitting extremely high-energy photons: that is, the gamma ray burst.


Last year, Dr. Bradley Schaefer of the University of Texas tested the consistency of the speed of light to great accuracy, with both high and low-energy photons, and found no variation in time. The photons at issue in Norris and Bonnell's analysis, though, are of higher-energy than anything studied before.


When it comes to burst photons, GLAST will detect the highest of the high. The instrument would be able to detect photons from gamma ray bursts with energies thousands of times higher than those detected on burst missions that will come before GLAST, such as HETE-2 and Swift. So, with the source of the gamma ray burst likely billions of light years away, GLAST might see a lag in photon arrival times as they travel through the endless soup of gravitons.


Such a scenario would provide strong evidence of the presence of the graviton and thus help verify the concept of quantum gravity. Naturally, quantum gravity being as speculative as it is, even obvious lags in photon speed might have some astronomers attributing this to the dynamics of the explosion and not the medium of space. Nevertheless, the discovery of lag times will be a profound revelation.


Several groups of scientists are working on the topic of quantum gravity and how to detect it. A team led by Dr. John Ellis of CERN is looking at low-energy gamma-ray bursts; Dr. Karl Mannheim of Universitäts Sternwarte and his group are looking at previously detected high-energy burst photons; and a group under the guidance of Dr. T.C. Weekes of the Whipple Observatory in Arizona is pouring through the data of the highest-detected gamma-ray photons, from relatively nearby active galaxies with black holes.


Clear-cut evidence for quantum gravity would ultimately open new pathways for physicists' prime goal of uniting all four fundamental forces under a Grand Unified Theory - a theory that explains the behavior of all matter and energy in all situations.


LINKto: Astronomy Today




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That is indeed some interesting shit, I have always been fascinated with physics.


It's not fair to say black holes are invisible though, they are huge consistant emmitters of X-ray radiation as well as Gamma when they gobble up a stellar object. The visible light spectrum we live in is incredibly small as compared to the theoretically unlimited electromagnetic radiation spectrum. If we only saw in X-rays every black hole would be a blinding sun.


I read an article in Scientific American that suggested that gravity, ostensibly the weakest of the four fundamental forces of nature may in fact be it's own dimension that "leaks" over into the traditional 5 that we acknowledge. I happen to subscribe to that theory. Strong nuclear force, weak nuclear force and electromagnetic radiation are pervasive throughout the universe but they are still an instance of something occuring where as space, time and gravity exist everywhere at once.


Black hole sun is a good tune too... :-)

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