XV62 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Not sayin' dubya COULDN'T get it done, but he didn't in 7 years. Now it's done. Trump's platform collapsed in one fell swoop. Pro Obama 2 Con 0 The economy is still in quite a state of flux. If the current state of affairs improves any at all before the next election, the pachyderms may be outa luck for sometime.................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Resort Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkrider Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 obamas birth certificate has been proven to be so badly photoshopped that it was either meant to be so to probably keep the debate going and attention off his bad leadership as a president, or, the white house staff really thinks we are just that gullible. neither would surprise me. I don't see where obama had anything to do with "getting" bin laden, other than maybe the continuing on of the special ops missions that had been going on for years. gw could could have got him within 6 months or less of 9/11, just like he could have taken care of afganistan and iraq very quickly, if, we didn't fight wars like politically correct little pussies just my 2 cents. don't have time to go into all the "cons" with obama, plenty with bush also. wasn't it you, vintage, that pointed out once "whered the trillions go?" this country needs a true born leader with balls. we haven't had one in a very long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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XV62 Posted May 2, 2011 Author Share Posted May 2, 2011 I was just making an observation, my take of events. I don't think we should have ever gone into A'stan or Iraq. The way OBL was taken down should have been our total involvement from the beginning. You're absolutely right about the leadership issue, but it ain't the buffoon with that thing on his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badndn Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Some of you need to pay closer attention. Having Special OPS kill Bin laden early on would have made us feel better but would have done little to get at the real problem. Thousands of bad people who want to kill YOU have been erased from the face of the earth in Afghanistan and Iraq. While not popular, it has merit. I just wish they had used nukes and minimized loss of American life and took the oil. Sounds cold but that is the way the world works. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan Chief Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Not sayin' dubya COULDN'T get it done, but he didn't in 7 years. Now it's done. Trump's platform collapsed in one fell swoop. Pro Obama 2 Con 0 The economy is still in quite a state of flux. If the current state of affairs improves any at all before the next election, the pachyderms may be outa luck for sometime.................... I thought it quite amusing that the press conference about this pre-empted Trumps " Board Room " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkrider Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I was just making an observation, my take of events. I don't think we should have ever gone into A'stan or Iraq. The way OBL was taken down should have been our total involvement from the beginning. You're absolutely right about the leadership issue, but it ain't the buffoon with that thing on his head. I see your point. especially from how it may be perceived. I was ok with afganistan. it was terrorist hotbed. bin laden was reportedly there, and was taking credit for 9/11. ideally saddam would have been taken out if the first bush would have told the un to go fuck themselves. after seeing how we've fought the Iraq war, I'd just assume we not have went in there now. the un without the US should have taken him out after he started violating all his restrictions. I do remember saddam publicy offering lots amount of money to the familys of any suicide bombers outside of Iraq if they killed Americans. eventually something had to be done about that jerk. it just shouldn't have cost near the amount of American lives that it did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleynot Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 (edited) come on man.....NO WAY Obama gets one ounce of credit for this....NONE, ZIP, ZERO , NADA, his apoligizing to the muslim community was embarassing... He gets credit for NOT closing down the operation for sure... Look , I don't like the guy, he's too closely tied to radicals in his private life for my taste, but his speech last night was full of himself and not very presidential... *seal team 6 had been hunting him for years.....Before Oblah Blah even started his streak to the top as a community organizer and non voting senator..I have relatives that voted for him because he said he was gonna end our "conflicts" as they put it.. they ain't talking to me about that right now. OBAMA spoke often about CLOSING GITMO as a campaign promise... THE INTEL came from GITMO that lead to the couriers being traced into the compound..... that is what is WIDELY being reported.. sheesh........ * The SEALs involved are the best of the best, from the Naval Special Warfare Development group known as Dev-Gru. The Virginia-based Dev-Gru team is commonly known as SEAL Team 6, a specialized and classified counterterrorism group operating outside of military protocol and often the boundaries of law. Its members are veteran SEALs who may have trained at Naval Base Coronado and recruited after years of work with SEAL teams to join the elite Dev-Gru. Team 6 was created to focus on counterterrorism after a failed attempt to rescue American hostages in Iran back in 1980. Recently, the Dev-Gru SEALs have been hunting major al Qaeda and Taliban figures but have also conducted operations in Somalia, the Balkans and Iraq. The members of SEAL Team 6 often train with and work with the Army's secretive Delta Force and the Special Operations Group of the CIA. The groups are all classified, and their members can't speak about anything to do with their operations, nor will the government confirm any information about them. Source: CNNot Edited May 3, 2011 by HARLEYNOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalper38 Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 come on man.....NO WAY Obama gets one ounce of credit for this....NONE, ZIP, ZERO , NADA, his apoligizing to the muslim community was embarassing... seal team 6 had been hunting him for 4 years..... OBAMA PROMISED TO CLOSE GITMO as a campaign promise...THE INTEL came from GITMO that lead to the courier being traced into the compound..... sheesh........ Yeah but he's going to take the credit. 1st thing out of his mouth was (paraphrased) " I told them their highest priority was to get binLaden". As if that wasn't Bush's highest priority. When you got the Pakistani's talking of their ass and their mouth and wanting to keep sucking the American money tit, they AIN'T gonna help much. We finally just got some intel that linked back to what we waterboarded out of the other dickhead a couple of years ago. Good for Obama for telling them to execute the mission. Good for Bush for putting the mechanisms in place for the intel to be had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longrider Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 come on man.....NO WAY Obama gets one ounce of credit for this....NONE, ZIP, ZERO , NADA, his apoligizing to the muslim community was embarassing... seal team 6 had been hunting him for 4 years..... OBAMA PROMISED TO CLOSE GITMO as a campaign promise...THE INTEL came from GITMO that lead to the courier being traced into the compound..... sheesh........I am with the harleynot on That. .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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