Dr. Mark Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 OK, brothers and sisters, a moment of your time, if you please. The past two days have seen...um...considerable upheaval, if you will, in the little orbit that is the world of Indian motorcycle. Polaris' purchase of Indian has provoked a considerable amount of discussion, consternation, controversy, and even hate and discontent on the board, to the point of attacking one another, and even attacking the newbies, like rabid weasels. OK, well, more rabid than usual. The pro-KM and anti-KM factions have been out in force, both proclaiming that the sale is vindication for their point of view. (fact is, they probably are both right, to some degree.) The civility level around here has dropped over the past year or two to the point that many good folks just don't come 'round no more, and that's sad. When was the last time you saw Pops post? Pappy? Homer? MG? IL? Danny? The list goes on and on. They all spiced things up around here, and always had something useful or funny or thought provoking to add. Maybe you don't miss them, but I do. And we sure ain't doing much to endear ourselves to the new Victory peeps signing on the board. Yeah, maybe a couple of them have made somewhat insensitive comments, but think back to when you were a noob and said stupid shit. Hell, I been here for 9 years and I still say stoopid shit...frequently. Hourly, at times. Whether you look at them positively or negatively, the KM days are over. The Polaris days are here. The debate about how things were done at Kings Mountain now will go on forever, likely, and will undoubtedly be chewed over ad infinitum at IRIP this year, next year and so on. All I am saying, is that we need to try to inject a little civility in the discussions. We don't talk to one another like this in person....unless we are joking. Let me give you an example...I don't think stu will mind. If you read the board, you'd think stu and I fucking hate each other, but in fact, when my nephew died, stu sent me an extremely nice note, and that was very much appreciated. We still fight like cats and dogs, but we'd still sit down for a beer together...and have in the past. Cut the newbies and Victory folks a little slack. We don't want them thinking we are all flaming dickheads right off the bat. (It should take them at least a month to figure that out on their own.) Peace, out. -Dr. Mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit_Rider Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potter Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Can I be a flaming dickhead and still keep my Victory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Can I be a flaming dickhead and still keep my Victory? Well.... some things can't be changed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 if your dick head is flaming you might need to get a shot of penicillin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uplander Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 damn physicians always trying to have a bedside manor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDNMICAH Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Well said Dr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel3078 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I live and work 15 miles away from Medina, MN - home of Polaris corporate offices and Victory bikes. I see more of those Victory bikes buzzing up and down highway 55 as they are going to work and back home again. For the most part they all wear helmets and they drive in all kinds of weather except snow. They love their bikes just like we love ours. The guys I have met in person give way more attention and respect to my Indian bikes - Gilroy or KM than any Harley guy ever has. Victory makes a damn nice, reliable, technically advanced batch of motorcycles. Granted the Vision has that fugly factor but those far out designs are what Cory and Arlyn Ness are all about. Those same Ness guys just might be the ones that come up with some really cool fairing and hard bag designs for the dresser tourng Indian so many of us want. I said it before and I'll say it again, welcome to this forum Polaris! See ya Thursday nites at the Medina Ballroom soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
335 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 I,ve been saying that for years, some folks dont care who thy insult!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof. O Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) I too find myself with headquarters now up the road not across the country, but it would not matter. I gave up several bikes to go all in on Indian and would not change the decision. Several guys who bought Indians then gave them up are now seriously deciding to re-buy. I have found most on the forum to be inviting and I hope to meet some of you in person soon. What I want most from "Indian Motors Polaris" is to get the Scout and Indian Four back on the road and into my garage. When I want to add things to the bike I want it available, I do not care who provides it. I think the new company can do this. I hope we all can enjoy the ride. Thx Doc for your words Edited April 21, 2011 by Prof. O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage229 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) I have to echo Dr. Marks comments and lets be a hospitable to the new members as they are coming over here out of curiosity. Now with that said, this is an INDIAN forum and if I had a vote I'd prefer to keep it that way. If I want to discuss Victory I'd go to the appropriate forum of like minds. And my brother has the Vision and it's the most ergonomically comfortable bike I have ever ridden. Good bikes with a strong following just like Indian. Personally I don't think the Vic crowd is coming over here due to the recent announcement of the acquistion of Indian. I think they got wind of the "Babes and Indians" thread. Edited April 22, 2011 by Vintage229 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XV62 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I will make a concerted effort to be nicer............... 'cept to cunuckistanis from Santa Maria................ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasbin Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Welcome Polaris Dude'z Doc, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eraserhead Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 and some folks are mean and want people to die all over a JOKE and are still holding on to old thoughts and ways... ya can't change people's mindset if they don't want to listen Doc, no matter how much ya try and tell them... some can't take jokes or sarcasm or accept apologies...whaddaya gonna do but move on... it's a bike, we're people who like to ride them, it should be that simple, not sure why it's not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahoe Chief Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Havin your knees in the breeze is one of the things we all have in common, the other is a passion for what we ride,safe thing to do would be to lay back with a cold brew and watch for a couple months to let the dust settle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan Chief Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Well said Dr Mark. I think we should all take a deep breath---- relax, and thank the motorcycle gods that Indian wasnt bought out by a BOWLING BALL company !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( not that there's anything wrong with that ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasbin Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Well said Dr Mark. I think we should all take a deep breath---- relax, and thank the motorcycle gods that Indian wasnt bought out by a BOWLING BALL company !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( not that there's anything wrong with that ) A bowling ball does push easier.........Just sayin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I will make a concerted effort to be nicer............... 'cept to cunuckistanis from Santa Maria................ i dont need a polaris ATV rider or a Victory rider coming on here talking shit or telling me their shit dont stink any more than I need a Harley rider, Goldwing, Triumph or MotoGuzzi....... Come here and be polite but dont start no shit. Family, brothers, and friends can start shit and get away with it....Visitors need to understand where they are fucking walking and who is listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micmac Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Agreed- with the caveat that many of our older respected members also own the Polaris bikes ( Uplander, Potter et al.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Agreed- with the caveat that many of our older respected members also own the Polaris bikes ( Uplander, Potter et al.) And they've gotten nothing but respect for their purchase... thank God for them they didn't buy a harley.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whadayawant Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 A bowling ball does push easier.........Just sayin WISH I'D SAID THAT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longrider Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 We should just have a big ol group hug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleynot Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 WISH I'D SAID THAT yeah, but he was just talking out loud cause he was pushing his last weekend...... *Sarcasm warning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleynot Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 And they've gotten nothing but respect for their purchase... thank God for them they didn't buy a harley.... .....shit disturbers are being profiled Stu and I'm putting you on double secret probation.. yep, I'm the guy..... * sorry Dr Mark , I get it...I just can't help myself.. *rehab is for quitters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Diesel Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 i dont need a polaris ATV rider or a Victory rider coming on here talking shit or telling me their shit dont stink any more than I need a Harley rider, Goldwing, Triumph or MotoGuzzi....... Come here and be polite but dont start no shit. Family, brothers, and friends can start shit and get away with it....Visitors need to understand where they are fucking walking and who is listening. Aw ..................... c'mon Brock - take a little friendly advice .................................................... and (tip - take a deep breath and have a valium first .........) FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hey Steve - does that qualify as being a "dickhead"????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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