Satdiver Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Just how fucked up is the state of California??? Federal judges have ordered California to release more than 40,000 inmates to improve conditions in its notoriously overcrowded prisons. The three-judge panel gave the state 45 days to come up with a plan to reduce the number of inmates in the 33 adult prisons from about 150,000 to 110,000 over two years. “California’s prisons are bursting at the seams and are impossible to manage,” the judges wrote. California’s jails were designed to house about 80,000 inmates. Judges said that despite billions of dollars spent on prisons, inmates were committing suicide and dying from neglect. Federal courts found that the level of care was so poor that it violated inmates’ constitutional rights. Cramped conditions led to increased violence and accelerated the spread of infectious diseases, the judges said. Some inmates are housed in triple bunks in prison gymnasiums. California’s legislators are due to debate how to reduce the prison population this month. As part of the agreement to close the state’s $26 billion budget gap, Arnold Schwarzenegger, the governor, and state congressmen agreed to cut $1.2 billion from the prisons budget but postponed decisions on how to implement. Current proposals would allow the state to place on home detention prisoners with less than a year left of their sentences and those who are elderly or infirm. They would also change sentencing and parole rules to reward criminals who show evidence of rehabilitation. That would clear up to 37,000 beds over two years, Matthew Cate, the California department of corrections and rehabilitation secretary, estimated. However, he said that the solution proposed by the federal judges would set a “dangerous precedent”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanChief Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 ...and Lucky You that you gotta outta here before the implosion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian al Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Thats too friggin funny. The inmates are uncomfortable so release em. Make the prisons nicer maybe plant some geraniums. Maybe and thats a big maybe but if prisons were very harsh and intolerable maybe you wouldnt get repeat offenders. If someone keeps going back to prison they deserve all the hardship they get. Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Resort Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Remember, it is a federal court telling California what they have to do. If this happens, if California does not appeal and get this overturned by the supreme court, it will come to your state next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian al Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Remember, it is a federal court telling California what they have to do. If this happens, if California does not appeal and get this overturned by the supreme court, it will come to your state next. I thought they put all the convicts in californy so when the big quake hits they disapear into the pacific with all the land. By the way do they attach life boats to all the buildings? Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eraserhead Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Remember, it is a federal court telling California what they have to do. If this happens, if California does not appeal and get this overturned by the supreme court, it will come to your state next. it already happened in CT..we moved to "community corrections"..more bracelets and 1/2 way houses..still too early to assess the damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Resort Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Oh, but there is more. They also put requirments on the health care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injun46 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Remember, it is a federal court telling California what they have to do. If this happens, if California does not appeal and get this overturned by the supreme court, it will come to your state next. True dat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Resort Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 it already happened in CT..we moved to "community corrections"..more bracelets and 1/2 way houses..still too early to assess the damage If that is what the people of your state chose to do, good on them. But did a federal court come in and make CT do that? That is what is happening out here. It ain't the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanChief Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Time to look at privatizing correctional institutions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Briggs Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Let me be a judge for a month. I'll reduce the population by half. Its called electricity, gas, injection or whatever other means possible. They won't be uncomfortable when I'm done...................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XV62 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Simple solution. Hire that sherrif from Arizona what's got alla his inmates in the tents wearing pink shorts to run the shakey states prisons. That's gotta be a big money saver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Diesel Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Time to look at privatizing correctional institutions. It's already being done - there's big money in prisons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian T Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 Well, Fuck. I mean.....ya know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whadayawant Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 I know how ya'all feel. There's one of them ex-cons right in our midst. I know for a fact that he's plotin' ta steal every Indian motorcycle that comes ta Branson next year. Then he's gonna kick their wives and rape their dogs. This plan has been in th' works fer years. See ya in Branson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eraserhead Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 If that is what the people of your state chose to do, good on them. But did a federal court come in and make CT do that? That is what is happening out here. It ain't the state. I think it was a preemptive move...The state isn't much for it and are fighting it.. we lost our Commissioner and I think we are going to go back, not sure... The privatization out here would cause more harm than good...CT is extremely susceptible to bribes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc indiana Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 I know how ya'all feel. There's one of them ex-cons right in our midst. I know for a fact that he's plotin' ta steal every Indian motorcycle that comes ta Branson next year. Then he's gonna kick their wives and rape their dogs. This plan has been in th' works fer years. See ya in Branson. Awe man, not the dog. Anything but that!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micmac Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Most of the overcrowding in California and other states can be attributed to the federal government to begin with. In 1995 the feds instituted mandatory sentencing guidelines which removed much of the power the sentencing judge had and imposed minimum/maximum length of sentences and removed time for good behavior and tied these guidelines to funding streams for police and the like.If states did not enact legislature tied to federal sentencing guidelines they lost funding. So the feds caused the situation to begin with, now are penalizing the state for a situation they have caused. What Connect-the-dots is doing is to be commended,that is to say properly managed and populated by offenders who have minimal contact with illegal activities stands a good chance to suceed according to the literature. If populated by those with multiple offenses and a high propensity to re-offend, coupled with poor offender management and high caseloads experienced elsewhere by parole officers, it is doomed to fail. What was that about federal health insurance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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