Falcon Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Once again in our lives, the feds have stepped in to regulate us. FDA is now empowered to more fully regulate tobacco labeling. The Commissioner's Letter: Today, President Barack Obama signed the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act of 2009. This legislation gives authority to regulate tobacco products to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. All of us at FDA should pause to reflect on this historic opportunity. Congress and the President are calling upon our agency to protect the public health. Working with our sister agencies in the Department of Health and Human Services and our partners at the state and local level, FDA is looking forward to playing a key role in reducing the human toll of suffering and disease caused by our nation’s leading cause of preventable death. We will use the best available scientific evidence to design and implement public health strategies to protect our friends, neighbors, and children. I have asked Catherine Lorraine to lead our tobacco regulation team on an interim basis until we are able to recruit a Director for the Center for Tobacco Products. Dr. Sharfstein and I will work closely with Ms. Lorraine and her team as they begin to design a new arm of FDA from the ground up. I have been asked how oversight of tobacco will affect FDA’s ability to regulate medical products and enhance the safety of the food supply. The tobacco program will be funded entirely through a new user fee program and will not compete for resources with any other part of the agency. More fundamentally, I am convinced that an effective tobacco program will reinvigorate the public health mission of FDA in a way that reinforces and strengthens all of our work. I thank you in advance for sharing your expertise and experience when called by the tobacco regulation team. Most of all, I thank you for everything you do, every day, to advance the health of the American public. Margaret A. Hamburg, M.D. Commissioner of Food and Drugs So. There's going to be a new government group organized within the FDA funded by a new user fee (can you say sin tax?) to regulate what tobacco manufacturers put on their labels and how they label in the first place. If you're interested in quitting: Want to see what Zyban, Chantix, and other generics do to you?http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/DrugSaf...r/ucm107318.pdf Ouch! Nicoderm, Habitrol, and Prostep: See pages 4 through 6 of http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dailys/03...003-01-vol2.pdf And an FYI - Nicoderm and Nicoderm CQ will run you about 54.00 at Safeway for the 10 -12 week program. Only real side-effect to the patch is vivid dreaming sometimes including what some would consider almost night terror dreaming IF you leave the patch on while you sleep, which isn't recommended in the first place. Whatever you choose regarding smoking, and however you choose to do it are of course up to you. I just wanted to give you some info to help you with those considerations. As to the government in our business yet again.....grrrr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary2Wheels Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 ...look at it this way,if you have friends and family who you'd like to grow older with,do it for yourself.Any way that works for you is fine.I'm glad I quit years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travlur Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I don't smoke. Never have. Never will. (Of course, I don't consider an rare occasional cigar smoking! ) That being said, I hate this trend towards higher taxes on the "sin tax" items. If smoking needs to be stopped, then outlaw it. By taking away the rights of smokers to have their own private clubs and bars to smoke in, and by taxing tobacco higher than it already is in order to make another government pool of "good ole' boy" employee's who's main job is to tell us what we Can't do (which, near as I read it, will result in yet another warning on cigarette packs that noone will read anyway) you are legislating the right of the government to regulate something next that YOU are interested in. What's next? My scotch? Your Beer? The pistol in the closet? Motorcycles (damn scary people riding damn scary things scaring the rest of the populace?)? __________ <--- put here what it is that you like and your neighbor doesn't. So, much as I hate smoke.. I always vote against any curtailement of it. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it! Anybody got 2 cents for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian T Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Shit...I'll give you a nickle. I'm of the same mind as you on this one. Never smoked, but I really don't care if anyone else does or does not. I have noticed though that, in general, ex-smokers are the worst as far as bitching about current smokers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCH Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Obama smokes. What an ass............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahoe Chief Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Obama smokes.What an ass............. Only 5% He said today he is 95% smoke free but is only human and slips up some ! So look out he will be able to say I did it so you have to,too !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian T Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Maybe he doesn't inhale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Resort Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I don't smoke. Never have. Never will. (Of course, I don't consider an rare occasional cigar smoking! ) That being said, I hate this trend towards higher taxes on the "sin tax" items. If smoking needs to be stopped, then outlaw it. By taking away the rights of smokers to have their own private clubs and bars to smoke in, and by taxing tobacco higher than it already is in order to make another government pool of "good ole' boy" employee's who's main job is to tell us what we Can't do (which, near as I read it, will result in yet another warning on cigarette packs that noone will read anyway) you are legislating the right of the government to regulate something next that YOU are interested in. What's next? My scotch? Your Beer? The pistol in the closet? Motorcycles (damn scary people riding damn scary things scaring the rest of the populace?)? __________ <--- put here what it is that you like and your neighbor doesn't. So, much as I hate smoke.. I always vote against any curtailement of it. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it! Anybody got 2 cents for it? Yep, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maninbox Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Well to show you how old I am, I always used to say that if cigarettes got up to $2.00 a pack, I would quit. I didn't quite make the $2.00 a pack but I did quit when they were about $2.25. Those damn things are around $5.00 per pack now. It's a good economic decision to quit. On the other hand, I'm not one of those types who become anti-smoking hard cases once they quit. We have a guy here at work who quit last year. Now he is complaining to HR because his cubicle neighbor smells of smoke. What a buffoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOE Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 i despise obama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahoe Chief Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 i despise obama What's happening with you lately Mo ? How ya doin ? Keeping my motor clean and happy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCH Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Only 5% He said today he is 95% smoke free but is only human and slips up some ! So look out he will be able to say I did it so you have to,too !! I quit smoking cigarettes over 12 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCH Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Well to show you how old I am, I always used to say that if cigarettes got up to $2.00 a pack, I would quit. I didn't quite make the $2.00 a pack but I did quit when they were about $2.25. Those damn things are around $5.00 per pack now. It's a good economic decision to quit. On the other hand, I'm not one of those types who become anti-smoking hard cases once they quit. We have a guy here at work who quit last year. Now he is complaining to HR because his cubicle neighbor smells of smoke. What a buffoon. I used to buy a carton of Marlboro's in the Navy for $2.00. Yep, 20 cents a pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maninbox Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) I used to buy a carton of Marlboro's in the Navy for $2.00. Yep, 20 cents a pack. They used to be included in C-rations back in the Army days. Smoke 'em if you got 'em. Edited June 24, 2009 by maninbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzer Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 I used to buy a carton of Marlboro's in the Navy for $2.00. Yep, 20 cents a pack. Didnt they only have Bull Durham back then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugdbdt Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Alcohol is next. Then gambling. No wait................ Our guns are next. Then alcohol. Then gambling............ Thanx, D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahoe Chief Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Alcohol is next. Then gambling. No wait................ Our guns are next. Then alcohol. Then gambling............ Thanx, D The only thing that will be legal is having sex with any thing or any one at any age you just have to marry it in one of the approved states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian T Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 The only thing that will be legal is having sex with any thing or any one at any age you just have to marry it in one of the approved states And then....there will be a sin-tax on fucking condoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCH Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 And then....there will be a sin-tax on fucking condoms. Instead of the non-fucking condoms??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whadayawant Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Go to www.sinlesssmoke.com I sell 'em in all my shops and use 'em myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indian T Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) Instead of the non-fucking condoms??? Yeah, you know...non-fucking condoms are the kind a guy wears when he just wants protection instead of sex. Like when it's cold and snowy outside, a knit condom ( from cotton, polar fleece, burlap....wait, not burlap) to keep the junk warm. Or maybe an asbestos condom for any firefighters out there. Theres nothing worse than trying to get your woman in the sack when you have third degree burns on the ol' python. You get the idea. fuck...I got too much time on my hands. Edited June 24, 2009 by indian T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hburns Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 First, I'm not a smoker, never was, never will be... not even the occasional cigar! Lost my Dad to lung cancer almost certainly caused by life-long smoking. So, I have no love of the habit or the habitue. All that said, it's legal and government getting involved and telling private business owners who can do a legal thing in their private establishment is clearly restraint of trade in my book. The law of unintended consequences: After the town I was living in at the time passed a 'no smoking in bars or within 25' of the door law', within 6 weeks two women were accosted. The first was raped and other raped and murdered while they were outside smoking... away from the doors of said establishments. You can't prove second hand smoke has harmed anyone, but I *can* prove that the stupid-assed anti smoking lobby killed one and injured another! Nuff said, --Hal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Diamond Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Go to www.sinlesssmoke.com I sell 'em in all my shops and use 'em myself. I checked out the site...You say you use them yourself, as an alternative to cigarettes? Or in combination? I quit cold turkey for a year and a half, and started back about a year ago...and that monkey first thing in the morning on my back, drives me crazy...I HATE smoking...Been smoking all told over 30 years...and am ready to quit again. The last time I quit, the wife left me I was such a Dick, believe it or not...Thanks for that post, I am gonna get her to check into it for me... Your Pal, Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolabob Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Yeah I never understood how a product that is legal to buy can have it's use legislated. How can a local gov tell a business man/woman how to run their establishment? Put a BIG sign at the door declaring smoking inside or not and let the consumer decide. Although we are not smart enough to make sound decisions about our lives on our own thats why we have BO in the White House! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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