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PHILADELPHIA (March 20) - The owner of a famous cheesesteak shop did not discriminate when he posted signs asking customers to speak English, a city panel ruled Wednesday.

 

In a 2-1 vote, a Commission on Human Relations panel found that two signs at Geno's Steaks telling customers, "This is America: WHEN ORDERING 'PLEASE SPEAK ENGLISH,'" do not violate the city's Fair Practices Ordinance.

 

Shop owner Joe Vento has said he posted the signs in October 2005 because of concerns over immigration reform and an increasing number of people in the area who could not order in English.

 

Vento has said he never refused service to anyone because they couldn't speak English. But critics argued that the signs discourage customers of certain backgrounds from eating at the shop.

 

Commissioners Roxanne E. Covington and Burt Siegel voted to dismiss the complaint, finding that the sign does not communicate that business will be "refused, withheld or denied."

 

In a dissenting opinion, Commissioner Joseph J. Centeno said he thought the signs did discourage some customers.

 

"The sign appeared immediately above another sign that had the following words: 'Management Reserves the Right to Refuse Service,'" Centeno wrote.

 

Geno's and its chief rival across the street, Pat's King of Steaks, are two of the city's best known cheesesteak venues. A growing number of Asian and Latin American immigrants have moved into the traditionally Italian neighborhood in recent years.

 

Vento had threatened to go to court if he lost. His attorney, Albert G. Weiss, said he was "pleasantly surprised" by Wednesday's decision.

 

"We expected that this was not going to go our way," Weiss said.

 

In February 2007, the commission found probable cause against Geno's for discrimination, alleging that the policy discourages customers of certain backgrounds from eating there.

 

The case went to a public hearing, where an attorney for the commission argued that the sign was about intimidation, not political speech. The matter then went to the three-member panel for a ruling.

 

W. Nick Taliaferro, the commission's executive director, said he would not appeal.

 

 

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I used to be a rolling stone

You know if the cause was right

I'd leave to find the answer on the road

I used to be a heart beating for someone

But the times have changed

The less I say the more my work gets done

 

`Cause I live and breathe this Philadelphia freedom

From the day that I was born I've waved the flag

Philadelphia freedom took me knee-high to a man

Yeah gave me peace of mind my daddy never had

 

Oh Philadelphia freedom shine on me, I love you

Shine a light through the eyes of the ones left behind

Shine a light shine a light

Shine a light won't you shine a light

Philadelphia freedom I love you, yes I do

 

If you choose to you can live your life alone

Some people choose the city

Some others choose the good old family home

I like living easy without family ties

Till the whippoorwill of freedom zapped me

Right between the eyes

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Vento has said he never refused service to anyone because they couldn't speak English. But critics argued that the signs discourage customers of certain backgrounds from eating at the shop.

 

 

In February 2007, the commission found probable cause against Geno's for discrimination, alleging that the policy discourages customers of certain backgrounds from eating there.

 

 

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If they can't speak English then there's a good chance they can't read it either so how does it discourage them? If it does discourage them then it's Vento's loss by my way of thinking. Left wingers have their heart in the right place but are too stupid to know you can't please the whole world & for every action there's an equal but opposite reaction.

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If they can't speak English then there's a good chance they can't read it either so how does it discourage them? If it does discourage them then it's Vento's loss by my way of thinking. Left wingers have their heart in the right place but are too stupid to know you can't please the whole world & for every action there's an equal but opposite reaction.

 

 

 

Egg Zactly,,,,,,,,,,, :I-Agree[1]: 100%

 

 

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I've been to both Geno's and Pat's.

Nobody speaks English there.

Get outta town.

Ya know what I mean?

Fugedaboutit.

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I used to be a rolling stone

You know if the cause was right

I'd leave to find the answer on the road

I used to be a heart beating for someone

But the times have changed

The less I say the more my work gets done

 

`Cause I live and breathe this Philadelphia freedom

From the day that I was born I've waved the flag

Philadelphia freedom took me knee-high to a man

Yeah gave me peace of mind my daddy never had

 

Oh Philadelphia freedom shine on me, I love you

Shine a light through the eyes of the ones left behind

Shine a light shine a light

Shine a light won't you shine a light

Philadelphia freedom I love you, yes I do

 

If you choose to you can live your life alone

Some people choose the city

Some others choose the good old family home

I like living easy without family ties

Till the whippoorwill of freedom zapped me

Right between the eyes

 

Yo! What's the Queen of England know about Philly anyway? Huh?

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Yo! What's the Queen of England know about Philly anyway? Huh?

 

"Philadelphia Freedom" is a song released by Elton John (as "Elton John Band") as a single in 1975. The song was one of John's numerous number-one U.S. hit singles during the early and mid-1970s, which saw his recordings dominating the charts. The song was written by Elton John and Bernie Taupin as a favor to Elton's friend, tennis star Billie Jean King. King was part of the Philadelphia Freedoms tennis team.The song features backing from the legendary Muscle Shoals Horns.

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"Philadelphia Freedom" is a song released by Elton John (as "Elton John Band") as a single in 1975.

 

As I said, What's the Queen of England know about Philly anyway? Huh? :P

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As I said, What's the Queen of England know about Philly anyway? Huh? :P

I think it went right over his head. Even if he is tall!!!

 

OK Mike, it's like this. Elton John is a queer (queen!) and he is from England.

Thus the Queen of England reference.

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I think it went right over his head. Even if he is tall!!!

 

OK Mike, it's like this. Elton John is a queer (queen!) and he is from England.

Thus the Queen of England reference.

 

...and I even put it in big letters, so he could read it! :lol:

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I prefer Pat's, they are the original. If you order correctly, "wiz wit" your hoagie is filled more than if you order incorrectly, (like the soup nazi) "Umm, I'd like a cheesesteak with onions and cheese whiz, please" :Rulz[1]:

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