2blackbelts Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I belong to quite a few forums, and I have seen it come up in more than one regarding the upstart of Indian again. Several of the websites are reporting that the new 2009, fully loaded Chief will retail for around $45,000. To say the least, this is a chunck of change. I really don't know the accuracy of the reports, but thought I would pass it on. 2 blackbelts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Resort Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I belong to quite a few forums, and I have seen it come up in more than one regarding the upstart of Indian again. Several of the websites are reporting that the new 2009, fully loaded Chief will retail for around $45,000. To say the least, this is a chunck of change. I really don't know the accuracy of the reports, but thought I would pass it on. 2 blackbelts Just hearing "fully loaded" would make me question where they are getting their info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badndn Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 i don't think they are even in the ballpark. i don't think indian even knows yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOE Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 i think it would be conjecture on anyones part right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Resort Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 i think it would be conjecture on anyones part right now. I am surprised you know what conjecture means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 anyone that says they know the price is fooling themselves... I will put it this way though...my Gilroy Standard Chief was listed for almost $22,000 at the dealer. No extras.....just the bare bones basic Indian Chief. From what I saw at factory with component engineering, quality, and the real thought that has gone into this bike....I would pay $26,000-29,000 for the same bike and still feel I came out ahead after all the bullshit and pain and breakdowns on the side of road, inner primary bearings, belt drives, head gaskets, etc. So not having to replace two starters, do an engine rebuild, replace wiring, replace lighting, replace ignition system, and money spent on tow trucks and shipping bike to Blackhawk....I would still be out ahead I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallRider Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Who knows? The Shadow knows . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolf Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 $32,837.92 bitches.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Resort Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 $32,837.92bitches.... Take home or MSRP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldev Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I would pay $26,000-29,000 for the same bike and still feel I came out ahead after all the bullshit and pain and breakdowns on the side of road, inner primary bearings, belt drives, head gaskets, etc. Don't give them any ideas, dingbat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOE Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I am surprised you know what conjecture means? hell, i surprised myself with that one, pop says i'm getting real smart here lately, i think he's worrying about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airheads Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 There's a point where the cost will make the number of sales drop sharply. IMO, that point would be around 25K - higher than HD and about the same as their CVO models. Much higher than that and the loss in volume of sales would be more than they would make at a higher price. For 25K you should be able to buy a bike that doesn't break down and all that other good stuff. Maybe that's unrealistic, but it sure would make KM hit the ground running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolf Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 $32,837.92bitches.... Take home or MSRP? hmmmm...I must consult the oracle... Hold please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Resort Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 There's a point where the cost will make the number of sales drop sharply. IMO, that point would be around 25K - higher than HD and about the same as their CVO models. Much higher than that and the loss in volume of sales would be more than they would make at a higher price. For 25K you should be able to buy a bike that doesn't break down and all that other good stuff. Maybe that's unrealistic, but it sure would make KM hit the ground running. And the CVO models are what will be close to the Kings Mountain Chiefs. The standard model Harley's just aren't in the ballpark bike wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan Chief Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I say 35K. Loaded w windshield, bags, passenger boards, etc. Thats w/o extra bullshit like security, map system, Ipod etc. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micmac Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 You could get a real nice Concourse quality Springfield (Mass) Chief for that price, mebbe even a 4 and I would before I'd pay that for a KM. That would be my priority at this juncture (like that Robert?). 1. 1947-53, 2. 2008+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldev Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 You could get a real nice Concourse quality Springfield (Mass) Chief for that price, mebbe even a 4 and I would before I'd pay that for a KM. That would be my priority at this juncture (like that Robert?). 1. 1947-53, 2. 2008+. Very astute thinking, my friend. Right now, the KM model has no record of gaining in value while the antique Indian 4 does have that immediate advantage. In the future, there's no telling whether or not the relaunch of Indian will see their machines garnering colectable resale value. Currently, I wouldn't ride one of the old 4s for loss of value and comfort while it seems the KM model would be covering both those markers. You are obvious looking upon a purchase of that price to be an investment either in dollars or enjoyment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micmac Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Have you ever ridden a 4? Quite comfy and will roll at 80 mph all day long no problem. The main problem you have is a hot leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldev Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 (edited) Yes. I rode it a long time ago. I didn't think it was too comfortable but it was certainly better than the WWII Scout. For scooting around town, it's great but given that I am one hour freeway travel time from Lunchbox and Lucasboy, and about 30 minutes from Hasbin, my usual riding buddies, I don't think I'd be able to stretch out as much as I do on my Chief or Scout. On my Scout, I lay my ankles on top of the pegs and have my feet sticking through to get comfortable. I don't remember being able to do that on the 4. Plus, I'd feel bad about putting all those miles on something like that. Special rides, sure, but a daily rider? I'd feel a bit guilty. Edited February 27, 2008 by Maldev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdog Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Lookee Here - I ain't sayin' nuttin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 (edited) Very astute thinking, my friend.Right now, the KM model has no record of gaining in value while the antique Indian 4 does have that immediate advantage. In the future, there's no telling whether or not the relaunch of Indian will see their machines garnering colectable resale value. Currently, I wouldn't ride one of the old 4s for loss of value and comfort while it seems the KM model would be covering both those markers. You are obvious looking upon a purchase of that price to be an investment either in dollars or enjoyment. I hardly think that the hard core riders think investment vs enjoyment. Who's to say! I love to ride and if any bike seems to get more rare these days it would seem to the gilroy. You can buy a low milage Gilroy for $15000.00 get the Malfa treatment and for 22,000.00 in you have one sweet ride that you can be proud of! LAST OF THE CARB INDIANS SO TO SPEAK! Edited February 27, 2008 by Grease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldev Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 (edited) I was directing that towards the Springfield Chief. Most people spending $35k on a concourse machine are not buying it for the riding pleasure. Most of them are buying them as investments. On the flipside, most people buying new motorcycles aren't buying them for investment opportunities, but are buying them for their enjoyment. Edited February 27, 2008 by Maldev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdog Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Ya know price is a funny thing. There are sometimes buyers for most anything. For example the MSRP on this: is MSRP: $120,000 Click Here if You want One - or want to see what it's made of.... That's why I often think for guys that try to discuss price now or are going around other places I've seen barking like junkyard dogs over price? Don't buy it of you don't want it or think it's worth the price - 'nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldev Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 (edited) Comparing an exotic to a standard machine? C'mon. Even the guys that buy those don't drive them day and date. I know one guy, a collector and a driver, that owns two Audio R8s. Neither has been driven. They sit in his collection. He drives a 5 series BMW. Big difference there between those machines. Same comparo can be drawn between the bike you chose and the new Chief. Indian isn't trying to make an exotic, they have stated they are trying to build a premium machine that is reliable and roadworthy. Edited February 27, 2008 by Maldev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdog Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Comparing an exotic to a standard machine? C'mon. Even the guys that buy those don't drive them day and date. I know one guy, a collector and a driver, that owns two Audio R8s. Neither has been driven. They sit in his collection. He drives a 5 series BMW. Big difference there between those machines. Same comparo can be drawn between the bike you chose and the new Chief. Indian isn't trying to make an exotic, they have stated they are trying to build a premium machine that is reliable and roadworthy. That's kinda my point. Although I did stretch it for eye opening value....Everything has its price - for a reason. They aren't even in business yet. There is no current Indian rep to measure up. I think they will price for value - like Gilroy did. It was a $24k out the door Chief. In the day - people said - WTF too much money. Until they realized it was up front loaded with many things and you'd have to buy a Road King and modify to the tune of about $4k over the price of the Chief to get similar equip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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