Oh yeah, it's global warming.............

[XV62]

It's fukkin' first week in April, in what's pretty much known as the south. It snowed here in Arkansas Thursday night and was in the teens last night. Highs for the weekend in the 40s.

 

In case no one has noticed, it's supposed to be warm here this time of year. Where's those fukkin' experts at now.

[Rosie]

I went out to run some errands this morning, and the guy on the radio said it was 40 degrees and raining and "This is as good as it's going to get!"

I doubt I've been off the couch five times since I got home....

[zig zag man]

8" of snow here in Boone, NC today..........freaky

[snogoer]

5 degrees above here!

[fungus]

We had temps in the low 30's and spitting snow flurries.....this suck!...and to think.....a week and a half ago, it was damned near 80.......mother nature's teasing us......

[POWER STROKE]

Helped out a BROTHER yesterday morning by ridin' his CBR600F3 to the CT DMV for a vin verify....

 

26 dgrsF, 2 layers of insulated gloves and an 8 mile ride there and 6 more to work, I thought my fingers were going to break off, and my knees shatter.

 

Many beers were the apology and thanks.

 

Yup, where's the fuckin' experts now!

Edited April 8, 2007 by POWER STROKE

[charger]

P/Stroke...what the hell is a CBR600F3..........thanks.....

[POWER STROKE]

P/Stroke...what the hell is a CBR600F3..........thanks.....

 

 

This is my bro Terry workin' on it

 

Edited April 8, 2007 by POWER STROKE

[charger]

had a feeling...lol

[XV62]

 

This is my bro Terry workin' on it

 

 

 

I'll bet you looked about as cute as you felt all bundled up on that little metric.

 

But, back about the weather. I know a bunch of yall still got it worse than we do here. It still sux.

[charger]

lol.........nobody said it was going ta be easy...

[Cherokee Chief]

Vintage 62,

How much snow did you get in Ft. Smith? We had a pretty good ground cover here in Fayetteville. Making it tough to get those break in miles in.

Kevin

[XV62]

Vintage 62,

How much snow did you get in Ft. Smith? We had a pretty good ground cover here in Fayetteville. Making it tough to get those break in miles in.

Kevin

 

It was just kold ass rain this side of the tunnel. Yall got all the snow up there.

[SlvrStrk]

Dang, global warming sucks.

Had overcast skies, drizzle, and temp.s only in the 60s yesterday for riding.

Yeh, I know....

[Brock]

10" snow in North Carolina

 

Chill Map

 

There’s No Such Thing As a 'Perfect' Temperature

By Richard S. Lindzen

Newsweek International

 

April 16, 2007 issue - Judging from the media in recent months, the debate over global warming is now over. There has been a net warming of the earth over the last century and a half, and our greenhouse gas emissions are contributing at some level. Both of these statements are almost certainly true. What of it? Recently many people have said that the earth is facing a crisis requiring urgent action. This statement has nothing to do with science. There is no compelling evidence that the warming trend we've seen will amount to anything close to catastrophe. What most commentators—and many scientists—seem to miss is that the only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes. The earth is always warming or cooling by as much as a few tenths of a degree a year; periods of constant average temperatures are rare. Looking back on the earth's climate history, it's apparent that there's no such thing as an optimal temperature—a climate at which everything is just right. The current alarm rests on the false assumption not only that we live in a perfect world, temperaturewise, but also that our warming forecasts for the year 2040 are somehow more reliable than the weatherman's forecast for next week.

 

A warmer climate could prove to be more beneficial than the one we have now. Much of the alarm over climate change is based on ignorance of what is normal for weather and climate. There is no evidence, for instance, that extreme weather events are increasing in any systematic way, according to scientists at the U.S. National Hurricane Center, the World Meteorological Organization and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (which released the second part of this year's report earlier this month). Indeed, meteorological theory holds that, outside the tropics, weather in a warming world should be less variable, which might be a good thing.

 

In many other respects, the ill effects of warming are overblown. Sea levels, for example, have been increasing since the end of the last ice age. When you look at recent centuries in perspective, ignoring short-term fluctuations, the rate of sea-level rise has been relatively uniform (less than a couple of millimeters a year). There's even some evidence that the rate was higher in the first half of the twentieth century than in the second half. Overall, the risk of sea-level rise from global warming is less at almost any given location than that from other causes, such as tectonic motions of the earth's surface.

 

Many of the most alarming studies rely on long-range predictions using inherently untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately forecast the weather a week from now. Interpretations of these studies rarely consider that the impact of carbon on temperature goes down—not up—the more carbon accumulates in the atmosphere. Even if emissions were the sole cause of the recent temperature rise—a dubious proposition—future increases wouldn't be as steep as the climb in emissions.

 

Indeed, one overlooked mystery is why temperatures are not already higher. Various models predict that a doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere will raise the world's average temperature by as little as 1.5 degrees Celsius or as much as 4.5 degrees. The important thing about doubled CO2 (or any other greenhouse gas) is its "forcing"—its contribution to warming. At present, the greenhouse forcing is already about three-quarters of what one would get from a doubling of CO2. But average temperatures rose only about 0.6 degrees since the beginning of the industrial era, and the change hasn't been uniform—warming has largely occurred during the periods from 1919 to 1940 and from 1976 to 1998, with cooling in between. Researchers have been unable to explain this discrepancy.

 

Modelers claim to have simulated the warming and cooling that occurred before 1976 by choosing among various guesses as to what effect poorly observed volcanoes and unmeasured output from the sun have had. These factors, they claim, don't explain the warming of about 0.4 degrees C between 1976 and 1998. Climate modelers assume the cause must be greenhouse-gas emissions because they have no other explanation. This is a poor substitute for evidence, and simulation hardly constitutes explanation. Ten years ago climate modelers also couldn't account for the warming that occurred from about 1050 to 1300. They tried to expunge the medieval warm period from the observational record—an effort that is now generally discredited. The models have also severely underestimated short-term variability El Niño and the Intraseasonal Oscillation. Such phenomena illustrate the ability of the complex and turbulent climate system to vary significantly with no external cause whatever, and to do so over many years, even centuries.

 

Is there any point in pretending that CO2 increases will be catastrophic? Or could they be modest and on balance beneficial? India has warmed during the second half of the 20th century, and agricultural output has increased greatly. Infectious diseases like malaria are a matter not so much of temperature as poverty and public-health policies (like eliminating DDT). Exposure to cold is generally found to be both more dangerous and less comfortable.

 

Moreover, actions taken thus far to reduce emissions have already had negative consequences without improving our ability to adapt to climate change. An emphasis on ethanol, for instance, has led to angry protests against corn-price increases in Mexico, and forest clearing and habitat destruction in Southeast Asia. Carbon caps are likely to lead to increased prices, as well as corruption associated with permit trading. (Enron was a leading lobbyist for Kyoto because it had hoped to capitalize on emissions trading.) The alleged solutions have more potential for catastrophe than the putative problem. The conclusion of the late climate scientist Roger Revelle—Al Gore's supposed mentor—is worth pondering: the evidence for global warming thus far doesn't warrant any action unless it is justifiable on grounds that have nothing to do with climate.

 

Lindzen is the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. His research has always been funded exclusively by the U.S. government. He receives no funding from any energy companies.

© 2007 Newsweek, Inc.

 

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17997788/site/newsweek/

[charger]

Brock...does this meen you wish you were back in michigan.............lol

[Brock]

fuck no.....you assholes tricked me into thinking it was nice when i came out of FLIGHT CLUB in a short sleeved shirt in downtown Inkster.....but then Wed night it is fucking snowing as I am eating Chili and drinking beer at Cheli's in DearbornHeights....rat bastards!!!

[charger]

fuck no.....you assholes tricked me into thinking it was nice when i came out of FLIGHT CLUB in a short sleeved shirt in downtown Inkster.....but then Wed night it is fucking snowing as I am eating Chili and drinking beer at Cheli's in DearbornHeights....rat bastards!!!

lol I didn't know there was a downtown INKSTER..........n as far as the Flight club....well all I can say to that is : "SLUT"............lol

been meening ta get dwn ta "Cheli's"...... hear it's a freindly place.........

[XV62]

 

This is my bro Terry workin' on it

 

 

Taking another look at this post, you mighta got all the brains in the family but yer brother definitly got all the looks.

[Injun Pete]

We had temps in the low 30's and spitting snow flurries.....this suck!...and to think.....a week and a half ago, it was damned near 80.......mother nature's teasing us......

 

 

Not teasing...................I'm thinking God's trying to tell us something........

[firebird77clone]

just skimmed that rather lengthy, and very informative article, but I can answer one querry it posed:

 

why global warming isn't more prevalent, considering the CO2 levels, is because it is being countered by global dimming. Or more specifically, artificial clouds created by jet exhaust.

 

In the days following 9-11, jets were grounded. This provided a unique opportunity to observe temperature influenced by CO2 greenhouse effect, without being countered by the dimming effect. the results were significant. Temperatures rose while the planes were grounded, and came back down when they planes took back to the air. Can't remember just how many degrees the change was, but it was quite significant.

 

This being said, it should also be considered that when you change the average temperature of the world by several degrees, all weather paterns are subject to change. A longer ( even colder ) winter is not proof that the AVERAGE temperature of the Earth is NOT rising.

 

THAT being said, anything that gets Man to reduce his pollution production is a GOOD THING. We will all benifit from reduced polution, regardless of whether it is or is not causing global temperature change.

Edited April 12, 2007 by firebird77clone

[firebird77clone]

ah but I meant to add my own story to the list:

 

Saturday night, ( after dark ) I was mowing the lawn, to get grass clippings to pile on my plants in my * early * garden. Those headlights on the ol' Craftsman really work!

 

maybe next year I'll wait till after April to plant my started seeds. BUT.. the grass clippings worked well, I saved a good 60% of the plants. Lost about 25% of the squash, but I have extras I can plant in their place. The beans seem pretty hardy, but still lost some of them, and DON'T have any extras of those. The peppers and 'maters hadn't been planted yet, so they are happy little plants.

[Furyous]

just skimmed that rather lengthy, and very informative article, but I can answer one querry it posed:

 

why global warming isn't more prevalent, considering the CO2 levels, is because it is being countered by global dimming. Or more specifically, artificial clouds created by jet exhaust.

 

In the days following 9-11, jets were grounded. This provided a unique opportunity to observe temperature influenced by CO2 greenhouse effect, without being countered by the dimming effect. the results were significant. Temperatures rose while the planes were grounded, and came back down when they planes took back to the air. Can't remember just how many degrees the change was, but it was quite significant.

 

This being said, it should also be considered that when you change the average temperature of the world by several degrees, all weather paterns are subject to change. A longer ( even colder ) winter is not proof that the AVERAGE temperature of the Earth is NOT rising.

 

THAT being said, anything that gets Man to reduce his pollution production is a GOOD THING. We will all benifit from reduced polution, regardless of whether it is or is not causing global temperature change.

 

 

Ah, this is why AL Gore takes 17 private jet flights a week, he is trying to cool the earth off!