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Anybody read this artical yet? Jim Babchak claims that these reasons led to the fall of Indian motorcycles... "startup issues/barriers, the economy, market timing, production problems, design issues, engineering hurdles, marketing mistakes, management misteps, competition, demand, and the list goes on and on".  :shocked:

 

Anything else Jim???

 

jim

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The latest MOTORCYCLIST magazine has an artice by one of the managers on the closing of IMC and tells it from the angle of some one on the inside. sad, sad, sad. what they did to their own peope... waked them back into the factory one at a time to get their stuff and be escorted out! Thanks for all your effort, here's a kick in the ass!!!!!!!!!! :veryangry:
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Hey, I got laid off by Worldcom in 2002 - the same week they broke the "improper accounting" scandal.  I know of at least two TV stations that broadcasted me riding off of the Ashburn campus, waving to all the news cameras.

 

My heart goes out to anyone who loses their job through no fault of their own.

 

(It took almost a year, but I did find a new job, by the way.)

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i read the article. he's right on one item, BAD MANAGEMENT!! the rest of the items are just CAUSED by the aforementioned. anyway you look at it, shit rolls downhill,

always has, always will. :no:

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Hey, I got laid off by Worldcom in 2002 - the same week they broke the "improper accounting" scandal.  I know of at least two TV stations that broadcasted me riding off of the Ashburn campus, waving to all the news cameras.

 

My heart goes out to anyone who loses their job through no fault of their own.

 

(It took almost a year, but I did find a new job, by the way.)

I smell a smoking gun :;):

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i read the article. he's right on one item, BAD MANAGEMENT!! the rest of the items are just CAUSED by the aforementioned. anyway you look at it, shit rolls downhill,

always has, always will. :no:

You got that right! Shit rolls down hill where I work.. I got "pleanty-O-shit" to spread around.

jim

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  • 3 weeks later...

Unfortunatley i work for a big company thats into making automotive parts for the big three.  Theres waste here also and from talking to alot of people thats rampant in alot of management  in alot of companies, GONNA GET MINE FIRST MENTALITY. childess  greedy and hurts all in the end .

 

                        Big Chief Duppun

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There was also an editorial article in IRON WORKS magazine that I got yesterday that was also very "anti-Indian". The writer babbled about a steam motorcycle built in the US prior to the turn of the 20th century. His whole point is that Indian wasn't first in 1901. The author also condemed the new start up companies using old names and histories such as IMC and Triumph. To me it was the same old s--t with nothing new. Just another smart ass who owes his living to the great Gods in Millwaukee, shouting "I told you so" and dancing happily on IMC's grave. There will be more of this self serving tripe in the magazines for awhile before IMC is allowed to rest in peace. :veryangry:
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Did anyone happen to catch the H-D add in this issue? Can't remember which dealership it was but it talked about being 100 years old and never going out of business, trying again, and going out again. Or some shit like that. Pretty tasteless advertising.
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Did anyone happen to catch the H-D add in this issue? Can't remember which dealership it was but it talked about being 100 years old and never going out of business, trying again, and going out again. Or some shit like that. Pretty tasteless advertising.

I saw the ad that you are referring to, it is by a Harley dealer group in Georgia. These clowns are short on memory and long on arrogance. It wasn't that long ago when HD quality was nonexistent and the company was in serious trouble financially. They really got their act together which is admirable but some of their riders and especially their dealers have gotten really full of themselves. I can't believe that these dorks would actually spend money to piss off non Harley owners which could be potential customers. I also suspect that this snobby attitude is why people bought Indians, Hendersons and Victorys. These are the same wizards that think Harley invented the motorcycle, the V-twin engine configuration, leather and the color black. I have been to a few HD dealers who were decent business people but most have been the same arrogant assholes that ran this particular ad. Seeing this ad makes me proud to ride an Indian!

 

I will have to admit that the Indian tag line, "Since 1901" was pretty stupid and was just asking to be ridiculed. "America's first Motorcycle" was a far better slogan in my book.

 

I am friends with a lot of Harley riders and don't really have anything against the product itself so don't flame me. It's the attitude that gets to me. :veryangry:

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I too saw that ad and you know what my first thought was? (besides where are the virgins at)

 

"Methinks doth protest too much"

 

In other words, HD sales are slipping. Look around and you'll find that not only does a purchaser not need to wait for delivery (there are plenty in stock and available) but they no longer get thousands above list price......as a matter of fact they're selling them below list in some cases!

 

As Rod Serling might've said "A sign post up ahead, marks the twilight of HD"

-ANT

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