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Not trying to take anything away from Paul's loss or anything here, but here's how the shoe can get on the other foot in a hurry.

 

This was 'bout six weeks ago.

 

Wife's out walking our chocolate Lab, sweetest big dumb fukker that he is, notice I did not add retriever to the breed, this fella wouldn't retrieve a t-bone 3 feet away. Anyway, several blocks away, two pit bulls come out of a garage and get after Angus, he's on a leash, Wife's panicing, luckily she is able to pull him up into the yard across the street and a woman comes out of the garage and calls the pits off and they stop. Another homeowner comes out to talk to Wife and tell her that's not the first time such has happened.

 

Wife and lab get home, she relates story, clean lab up, one nip on his haunch with a little blood, I call animal control. The response is, what do you want us to do. My response is, If yall don't do something about stuff like this, that's fine, I'll handle it Old School. Woman Dispatcher says, Hold on, we'll send out an officer. He talks to pit owners, but they're still there. Had the pits got the wife, I would have made the call, but just asked what the fine was for discharging a firearm in the city limits, and told them where to come get the money.

 

I do not believe in animal cruelty by any stretch of the imagination, but I could shotgun those two pits in a heartbeat without a second thought or blinking. Dogs of that nature have no place around other dogs, adults and especially kids.

 

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Not trying to take anything away from Paul's loss or anything here, but here's how the shoe can get on the other foot in a hurry.

 

This was 'bout six weeks ago.

 

Wife's out walking our chocolate Lab, sweetest big dumb fukker that he is, notice I did not add retriever to the breed, this fella wouldn't retrieve a t-bone 3 feet away. Anyway, several blocks away, two pit bulls come out of a garage and get after Angus, he's on a leash, Wife's panicing, luckily she is able to pull him up into the yard across the street and a woman comes out of the garage and calls the pits off and they stop. Another homeowner comes out to talk to Wife and tell her that's not the first time such has happened.

 

Wife and lab get home, she relates story, clean lab up, one nip on his haunch with a little blood, I call animal control. The response is, what do you want us to do. My response is, If yall don't do something about stuff like this, that's fine, I'll handle it Old School. Woman Dispatcher says, Hold on, we'll send out an officer. He talks to pit owners, but they're still there. Had the pits got the wife, I would have made the call, but just asked what the fine was for discharging a firearm in the city limits, and told them where to come get the money.

 

I do not believe in animal cruelty by any stretch of the imagination, but I could shotgun those two pits in a heartbeat without a second thought or blinking. Dogs of that nature have no place around other dogs, adults and especially kids.

 

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:I-Agree[1]: Most people that own animals are responsible but you also get the fuckers that think nothing when their animals attack. If any animal attacked my family I would kill it no questions asked. The people you mentioned shouldnt be allowed animals if this is a common occurance. Glad your wife and pet are ok if your ever driving down the street and the dogs are loose run em down. I know people are thinking its not the dogs its the owners and I agree but these dogs already learned its ok to attack other animals and people. If it makes ya feel better run the owners over too.

 

 

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I do not believe in animal cruelty by any stretch of the imagination, but I could shotgun those two pits in a heartbeat without a second thought or blinking. Dogs of that nature have no place around other dogs, adults and especially kids.

 

 

 

It is all the owners fault for training or not training. That is the very reason so many towns and citys have the muzzle law for the pit bull or they have plain banned them. It sounds like those two should be put down as if they start charging it will be no time before a kid gets it. Keep bugging animal control and maybe find a few more in the area that have run ins with those dogs, it may get the dogs away from anybody getting hurt. If only one complaint it is hard to get fixed by the bylaw!

 

A few years my wife was bit by a golden lab while jogging, friend stopped and helped her out, the dog owner said we shouldn't be running around her house anyways. It is the street and a lot of kids play there also. It took some work but I forced animal control to have the dog put down and the owners fined. It was worth the effort.

We have had a Pit for the last 10 years and is a great dog and well trained. The only time she would run at anybody is if you had a dog treat or somebody rattled the food dish. Also if you are in our house or yard and head towards the kids or wife she parks herself between you and them, goodluck trying to get by. Doesn't even have to make a noise.

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follow up in writing, detail the incident and any others you can find, state that you are unhappy with the results of the animal control follow up because the dogs are still loose and that you are gravely concerned for the safety of the neighborhood, especially the children. C a copy to your attorney and neighborhood watch group or PTA or some kind of group....

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follow up in writing, detail the incident and any others you can find, state that you are unhappy with the results of the animal control follow up because the dogs are still loose and that you are gravely concerned for the safety of the neighborhood, especially the children. C a copy to your attorney and neighborhood watch group or PTA or some kind of group....

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... certified mail and be sure to CC the city/county attorney and the dog owners home owners insurance..

 

Put them on notice of the dangerous situation. Then if they do nothing, when someone gets hurt, and you know they will, the legal action is a slam dunk.

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Everytime you drive by their house drop some dogfood in the street. After a while everytime they hear a car coming they will run out in the street thinking it's food time. Just a matter of time at that point and the problem will be solved.

 

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Not to take anything away from what you're saying, but are you sure that they're pits? Or are they American Staffys? Or maybe even some other bully breed. What happened to your wife wasn't right, and I agree with the general consenus here as a reasonable course of action. On the other hand, most dog ownerrs can't tell a Pit from a Staffy, and most non-dog owners think anything with short hair and cropped ears is a Pit.

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to follow along with Scottdog's posting, I have a friend who prefers to freeze balls of hamburger with rat poision in them, and toss them over the fences where the dogs live.......personally wouldn't do it, but he tells me he has dealt with several this way......

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Not to take anything away from what you're saying, but are you sure that they're pits? Or are they American Staffys? Or maybe even some other bully breed. What happened to your wife wasn't right, and I agree with the general consenus here as a reasonable course of action. On the other hand, most dog ownerrs can't tell a Pit from a Staffy, and most non-dog owners think anything with short hair and cropped ears is a Pit.

 

There is some truth in what you say. We have a yellow lab (papered) and people say "nice pitbull". I respond with "are you joking or stupid?" :rotfl:

 

 

 

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This is a Pitbull after a fight with a Russian Boar

 

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Sorry to hear about the near tragedy involving your wife and her canine friend. Being an owner of a Shar Pei, I understand the importance of proper training and avoiding liability(ies). I AGREE with Scottdog. If the neighbors are saying this is not the first time, pay the fine for discharging a firearm within City limits and rid the neighborhood of the threat.

 

Too many stories in the news about these animals mauling kids, some to death. Viciousness has its place... in a junk yard, not in a neighborhood. Some idiots are just irresponsible and deserve what happens to the dog(s).

 

I'd start dropping the meat in the roadway real soon.

 

Take Care!!!

 

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Not to take anything away from what you're saying, but are you sure that they're pits? Or are they American Staffys? Or maybe even some other bully breed. What happened to your wife wasn't right, and I agree with the general consenus here as a reasonable course of action. On the other hand, most dog ownerrs can't tell a Pit from a Staffy, and most non-dog owners think anything with short hair and cropped ears is a Pit.

 

Copied and pasted from akc site

 

"Known for their intelligence and loyalty American Pit Bull Terriers make excellent, loving and protective companions despite the unfair press they receive. A common question regarding the APBT is, "How is this breed different from the American Staffordshire Terrier?". In the eyes of the United Kennel Club, they are the same breed, but many disagree. Some AKC-registered American Staffordshire Terriers are dual-registered as American Pit Bull Terriers with the UKC; however, this draws criticism from many who point out that the bloodlines have been separate for too long for these to be considered the same breed. The AKC, on the other hand, does not allow a UKC-registered American Pit Bull Terrier to be registered as an American Staffordshire Terrier. To be dual-registered, the dog must first be an AKC-registered American Staffordshire Terrier and then it can be registered with the UKC as an APBT -- but not vice versa... Choose from a responsible breeder and make sure the puppy is properly socialized and handled. Solid training will produce a tranquil, good, obedient, companion dog."

 

I didn't think one could tell the difference by a cursory look. :huh:

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My Pit Pablo is twelve years old and has never been agressive. I trained, loved, and treated him right. It is definately the dog owner that needs to be taken out and the dogs taken away from them, observed, hopefully resocialized with other people and other dogs.

 

Not to get on a rant, but I hate the way pits have been demonized in the media. I have known many a meaner breeds, chows as an example, but it is always the pits that get demonized.

 

Funny 60 years ago the pit was the most popular of all breeds. America's dog Petey was a pitbull, Buster Brown was a pitbull... Anyway, like I said hate to get on a rant.

 

Sorry to hear about your dog almost getting attacked

 

 

 

 

 

Copied and pasted from akc site

 

"Known for their intelligence and loyalty American Pit Bull Terriers make excellent, loving and protective companions despite the unfair press they receive. A common question regarding the APBT is, "How is this breed different from the American Staffordshire Terrier?". In the eyes of the United Kennel Club, they are the same breed, but many disagree. Some AKC-registered American Staffordshire Terriers are dual-registered as American Pit Bull Terriers with the UKC; however, this draws criticism from many who point out that the bloodlines have been separate for too long for these to be considered the same breed. The AKC, on the other hand, does not allow a UKC-registered American Pit Bull Terrier to be registered as an American Staffordshire Terrier. To be dual-registered, the dog must first be an AKC-registered American Staffordshire Terrier and then it can be registered with the UKC as an APBT -- but not vice versa... Choose from a responsible breeder and make sure the puppy is properly socialized and handled. Solid training will produce a tranquil, good, obedient, companion dog."

 

I didn't think one could tell the difference by a cursory look. :huh:

 

 

 

People that know more about pits know the distinction between the two. American Staffs are much larger, stand taller, have a slightly longer nose, and weigh more the stradfordshires. The strads are much shorter and squatty as a general rule and are often times have a more aggressive stance and demeanor. That usually weight between 40-60 llbs. 60 being an old fat one. 50-55 lbs in their prime.

 

American Staffys are usually about 60-90 lbs. 90 again being when they are old and fat like mine, Pablo. American pits are generally more peaceful as their size gives them more confidence around other large breeds.

 

Now if you want to see a nasty minded mean breed look up Canary Mastiffs.

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My Pit Pablo is twelve years old and has never been agressive. I trained, loved, and treated him right. It is definately the dog owner that needs to be taken out and the dogs taken away from them, observed, hopefully resocialized with other people and other dogs.

 

Not to get on a rant, but I hate the way pits have been demonized in the media. I have known many a meaner breeds, chows as an example, but it is always the pits that get demonized.

 

Funny 60 years ago the pit was the most popular of all breeds. America's dog Petey was a pitbull, Buster Brown was a pitbull... Anyway, like I said hate to get on a rant.

 

Sorry to hear about your dog almost getting attacked

The Chow......

 

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....now there is a naturaly territorial dog for you. Don't leave them in your house alone though. Don't know what it is about those dogs. One of the coolest dogs but man, they will tear this shit out of your house if left unattended.

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My pit loves people -

 

Wants to fight almost every other dog it sees -

 

But we keep her locked up in the backyard -

 

And try to keep her away from FoosH...

 

Thanks, Danny

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The Chow......

 

anjo.jpg

 

....now there is a naturaly territorial dog for you. Don't leave them in your house alone though. Don't know what it is about those dogs. One of the coolest dogs but man, they will tear this shit out of your house if left unattended.

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Sure..... now ya tell me... <_<

 

Guess I should look at the bright side.. shes only part chow.. she only tears up half the house..

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Pit bulls are physically equipped to be very ferocious, as for their temperament, shame on the owner. It's too bad when good dogs are raised improperly and begin to act out.

 

My signature says it all, you never fuckin know what might happen.

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The Chow......

 

anjo.jpg

 

....now there is a naturaly territorial dog for you. Don't leave them in your house alone though. Don't know what it is about those dogs. One of the coolest dogs but man, they will tear this shit out of your house if left unattended.

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We're on our second pure bred Chow Chow and I never knew their reputation until I had the LAPD come to my condo years ago. The officers wouldn't step into the place until we put Tasha on a leash. Territorial certainly, but have never seen one go agressive unless you are somewhere you shouldn't be.

The other "problem" with the Chow Chows is the fact that most of them, especially the females, don't bark as a warning. My wife owned Tasha since she was a pup and I met her with Laurann when she was already five. It took me the next year to teach her to bark. All she would do was make a chuffing sound like she was clearing her throat. I thought it was just her but the officers told us the same thing, Chow Chows are known for not giving any warning other than simply standing their ground.

Our new Chow Chow is the same way. I had to teach her to bark and she's been socialised heavily. The wife carried her everywhere when she was a pup and made her interact with people, kids, dogs, cats...you name it. Anyway, had to chime in that if you're going to take those shots, my opinion is one to the dog, the second to the owner.

And pepper spray works wonders on dogs.

 

And we've never had a problem leaving our Chow Chows alone in our home for the past eleven years. Never a problem.

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We're on our second pure bred Chow Chow and I never knew their reputation until I had the LAPD come to my condo years ago. The officers wouldn't step into the place until we put Tasha on a leash. Territorial certainly, but have never seen one go agressive unless you are somewhere you shouldn't be.

The other "problem" with the Chow Chows is the fact that most of them, especially the females, don't bark as a warning. My wife owned Tasha since she was a pup and I met her with Laurann when she was already five. It took me the next year to teach her to bark. All she would do was make a chuffing sound like she was clearing her throat. I thought it was just her but the officers told us the same thing, Chow Chows are known for not giving any warning other than simply standing their ground.

Our new Chow Chow is the same way. I had to teach her to bark and she's been socialised heavily. The wife carried her everywhere when she was a pup and made her interact with people, kids, dogs, cats...you name it. Anyway, had to chime in that if you're going to take those shots, my opinion is one to the dog, the second to the owner.

And pepper spray works wonders on dogs.

 

And we've never had a problem leaving our Chow Chows alone in our home for the past eleven years. Never a problem.

Wish I knew this when I was at your house. I loves Chows. Wish I could own one.

 

And I agree, it's all about the training.

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my neighbors have a pair of pits, boy and girl.... nicest dogs for over the fence petting, my kids loose a ball to them every week,,LOL. but to be in there yard thats a whooole differant story, don't trust em. i agree its all in the owner training. they get locked up when my kids go over due to my request and their safety. the kids are afraid of them. rather be safe then sorry.

my oldest son got bit by a lab/shephard in the face and it affected the dog really bad, dog went downhill from there, died within 6 months. got another lab puppy and trained him to be around young kids, pulled its :Cheers[1]: fur, poked at the face, played hard with him and he turned out a really good dog, went everywhere with the kids. never hurt noone unless they had a bad attitude,,, maybe thats why he didn't like the ex,,,,LOL.

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There is some truth in what you say. We have a yellow lab (papered) and people say "nice pitbull". I respond with "are you joking or stupid?" :rotfl:

 

 

 

dogs_dec_01.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is a Pitbull after a fight with a Russian Boar

 

Pitbull%20after%20Fight%20with%20Russian%20Boar_jpg.jpg

 

 

Man them russian whores can be mean.

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I have had Chows for the last 20 years, three, two femals and one 98lb male that lived to be 13 years old. Yep females will usually only "huff" but the male I had certainly would bark a warning from about 100 yards.

 

Very proctective breed, mine will usually sleep on the floor by my side of the bed when I'm home, but will lie in the bedroom door way when I'm at the station, gotta get pass them to get to Nurse Darlene, and no I did not train them to do that.

 

I've never seen one of the Chows I've owned charge, nor have I had that experence with others as long as I was with their owners, most will usually stay away and slowly come closer to check you out. Fast movements can cause them to back up quickly and bark.

 

Don't corner them though, and don't rush up to pet them, one of the number one reasons this Breed is known as a biter, is that children view them as teddy bears and will rush up to them to hug or pet them.

 

I've never had a problem with them being destructive, typical chewing when their puppies, but are easy to train to chew toys instead.

 

I think the two biggest problems with any breed is owners not being smart enough to train the dog, and improper breeding.

 

Dogs are pack animals and will look to the owner as alpha if properly trained, if not the dog will asume it is alpha and do as it will. Breeding is more than just mating two dogs, traits that are positve, soundness of body, and proper temperment, protectivenss, note I did not say agression, should be encourged. Animals that display agressive tendencies or physical defects, hip problems, eye problems, etc. should not be bred, in some cases these animals may need to be put down humanly, or at very least spayed or neutered and placed in a home capable of dealing with such defects.

 

It's kinda like children, the little brat that lives down the street and has no parental supervision is usually forgiven when young because his parents are idiots and should not have bred. However when the child gets older and the courts have to step in some times they have to be put down, unfortunatly by then they have already bred, and the cylcle continues.

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