paolabob Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 I am watching the news about the aftermath of Katrina and now it's becoming a race issue with fuel being thrown on the fire by the news media. It's a total wipeout compared to none other in my generation, people have been giving and helping, local, state, and national goverment help is now arriving but yet the complaints mount. Is this part of a human factor that just sufaces however it can? I do understand trying to protect your family and the dire straights people are in but to make it a race issue? I just don't get it. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leelynn Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 nothing now days is none other than a racial issue. if race doesn't apply the liberal media will make it apply. what I want to know is where the hell is the million man march now that help is realy needed? why don't jessie,al and all the race spewers get their ass down there and calm their brothers down and get the job done when they can realy make a difference. the people chose to stay there and their (player) mayor let over 300 school busses set and get flooded instead of getting them out of harms way and to safer ground. so now we have people stranded and over 300 busses destroyed that could have taken them out befor the storm. what we have is one big mess thats the white mans fault. welfare at its best. befor the hurricane hit I watched the news and was screaming at the TV because they only had two lanes of traffic going out of nawlins. I blame the (cry baby) govenor the (player) mayor and the welfare system for this one!!! cut and dry, so fire away liberals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badcad Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Well look at what happened in L.A. with the Rodney King ordeal. The damage was caused by .........? And that was a man made disaster. Why do you think OJ was found not guilty? It had nothing to do with wether or not he was guilty. Can you imagine the chaos and damage in every city if OJ was found guilty. Its all the governments fault people are acting like this, yeah thats a typical statement. How any years has New Orleans existed? They should have had a better city and state plan of attack. And once again the media are scum and have pitted personalties everywhere against the government when its plain to see these people, stealing not looting (and I'm not talking about food and water people), raping, car theft and the list goes on are of a certain culture and mentality for the most part.The people comiting thse crimes should be shot! These people are not active productive citizens and thrive on this sort of thing. The media is out of control and responible for public opinion! But the those pictures and film tell a bigger story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Cheef Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Oh!! Wait!! This isn't the PP section--I'm outa here. Lisa will be hopping in in just a minute to educate you. Damn Bob--there's been movies made about just this question. Where the hell have you been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefin Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 well, i was just there...you guys believe what you want... do a lil research about lilly white (LA klan country) bogulousa and find out about the looting and crime going on there... talk to the rescuers asking where's the help the feds aren't getting to them..ask them how they feel about the president taking days to visit... read the posts here where people mention "jesse's there...now everything will be ok"....yet you're asking where they are now??... believe me...this is NOT a racial issue except for the circumstance of the people most affected...BUT, there are people of ALL races and socio-economic positions... All levels of government blew this one...local, state and federal...cutting the budget to fund the war in iraq?? don't bother to reply directly to me..i'm not reading this one anymore.. eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonaSpirit Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 I'm sure Ed and I agree that the US government exhibited Equal Opportunity Incompetence in this case. I've seen quite a bit of footage of them dropping food and water from helicopters onto rooftops where people are still stranded over the last couple of days, as well as food and water being dropped throughout Mississippi. or as one Fire Chief said: "On the other hand, how #&*#$% hard is it to drop 20,000 snicker bars & bottles of water from helicopters into a stadium whose roof is blown half off anyway" Homer is exactly right, there were people of all colors, ages, religions, economic stations, and people from other countries left without food or water for days, in 98 degree temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leelynn Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 HERE READ THIS AND THEN COME BACK WITH AN OPINION!! www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1476775/posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOE Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 to blame this on our president is being downright fuckin stupid and desperate. i refuse to think ANYONE truely believes that,they just can't bear the fact that he is the president,not al gore not john kerry. dam that shit pisses me off. bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolabob Posted September 4, 2005 Author Share Posted September 4, 2005 Ya know, I just asked a question because I didn't understand but it seems as though there is no "answer". The 'truth' it seems that is deep rooted in belief and opinion and the futher these threads go on the more polarized we all become. I don't want to be this lightning rod and create a division of friends and fellow IIRA folks. All I wanted was to understand why every f@#$king thing has to be about race. I'm out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badcad Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 When shit hits the fan it all comes down to race in one form or another. And there are those who HIDE behind it like a shield and those who are SCARED to admit it, those who choose to DENY it and those who EXPOSE it. Be true to yourself no matter what you believe and stand on those principles or beliefs and remember you can always change your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Cheef Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 I'm sure Ed and I agree that the US government exhibited Equal Opportunity Incompetence in this case. No we don't agree. I'm still saying the LOCAL and STATE GOVERNMENT dropped the ball on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PALE RIDER Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Having been raised in the Northeastern part of PA and become a transplant to LA when I was in my 30's, I experienced prejudice. Prejudice against Blacks and Yankees as we are called or in my case "Damn Yankees", the difference being that I was a Yankee that stayed. I moved back to PA 6 years ago after living in the Baton Rouge area for 20 years. I miss that area a lot. I made many friends in the years I lived there and my children were raised there and two have remained there. My friends were black and white and I became aware of a great lessoning of the prejudice over the years as education is improving and balancing the gap. Don't mistake what I am saying; there is prejudice on both sides of the race lines. This is not an abnormal condition in any country. Prejudice is part of life in all parts of our country. The form is different, the reason different, the type different, but it exists everywhere and if you think you have never been discriminated against, you simply did not recognize it for what it was. The condition in New Orleans is not discrimination, it is ignorance and arrogance. Our country was caught with its pants down. The governor was unwilling to ask for help from the federal government which is seen as the enemy even today in the south. They are still fighting the civil war. The state did not have a plan for this type of major catastrophe and the poor, yes poor, where unable to do what they needed to do to protect them. This is what happens. Look at the faces of the volunteers in the shelters. They are the faces of many races and religions. This is what we should be focused on now. Trying to point a finger of blame or prejudice is a waste of time and some peoples own agenda for future plans. They are placing themselves in the limelight for personal gain. The people in the centers, working with the people, caring for these people, they are the ones that deserve praise. My feelings are: “Shut up and do something yourself to help. Get off the grand stand and organize help for the area and pick up a broom, offer a job, donate money, clothing and food. Stop the useless talk and roll up your sleeves. Show the people you care by moving something besides your lips.” Wife of “Pale Rider” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary2Wheels Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 ......what it comes down to,is the distotions in thinking that provide for first finding how we are different from one another rather than how we are similar.It's cave man 101,tribal neanderthal.....come to think of I'm not being fair to neanderthals as more is coming to our understanding of them. Irish protestants vs Irish Catholics,Armenian Orthordox vs Armenian Apostolic,GM vs Ford ......it's beyond race.It's basic to prejudicial thinking and can take any form under the sun.If you want to do some research ,do a google search on cognitive behavioral therapy and the forms of distorted thinking.Peace to all... RIDE SAFE...LIVE LONG :wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Cheef Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 My feelings are: “Shut up and do something yourself to help. Get off the grand stand and organize help for the area and pick up a broom, offer a job, donate money, clothing and food. Stop the useless talk and roll up your sleeves. Show the people you care by moving something besides your lips.”Wife of “Pale Rider” I agree and disagree with you. YES--do something--in my case it was donate money. But I'll also disagree. DON'T shut up. Talk is not useless. We need to keep arguing and fighting - that's how we figure the best way to fix all this. Personally I want to find out who needs to be getting the blame and blame the fuckers. If we shut up it just all goes away again and gets ignored and swept away. All those poor folks--and from what I see they are black-white-brown and yellow need to be getting help to get better than what they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badcad Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Thats what I love about this place most assume that because you point fingers or acuse or complain or stir the pot that you should "shutup and help". how the fuck does anyone here know who is "helping" who. I dont need to tell the world that i have donated or volunteered or not. Personally I prefer to keep that side away from any of you, although I guarantee most of you have an opinion of me based soley on my posts. Thats the way I like it. I TIP MY HAT TO THOSE HERE HELPING IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM but not those just jumping on the bandwagon just to validate their existance or to see it on a post or in print while they point the finger and say I'm helping what are you doing. I personally would always prefer to remain anonomous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugdbdt Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Reminds me of the Kennedy administration - And the witch hunts against honest, hardworking EyeTaliun Americans. EVERYONE knows there is no such thing as the "Mafia"... Thanks, Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badcad Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Exactly and I know how he feels, I'm chilean and brazilian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PALE RIDER Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Lets talk a little bit about lilly white klan country (correct spelling) Bogalusa, La. it is my home town and my family still lives there. After 4 days I finally found out they are ok, now we are talking about people 65 to 81 years old. Bogalusa is a small town and most of the people there are poor or eldery, and by the way mostly black. The latest info I had was a resident drove 90 miles to Baton rouge to beg for help and was given 8 truck loads of food and water.Now this was for a town of appx. 15000 residents. There is no water, no power, no help, and no diffrence what race or religion you are to be shit out of luck. They are in need of help, just like a hundred other small towns. Forgotten while N.O. receves all the media attention for Violence and looting. Yes looting has happned but was minimal and the mayor sent out a plea for assistance as the police are working around the clock to keep order. So Homer get your facts straight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleman Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 O.k. im jumping in then im gone, I agree badcad -well said, Why is it the ones that make it a race issue is some black guy you see on the news talkin about it. Second, if I was in the same place (and I feel bad for them) I would not be on the TV demanding people to help me, What the hell ever happened to the word PLEASE? Its one thing to demand help because you think you deserve it for some reason and its another to say could you please help us we need you! I also am an anonomous donor of things I feel are right and the last thing I want is for someone to say thank you for the things we should be doing anyway. If you can give you should have already gave and if you cant then at least pray for them. Oh and you can blame anyone you want but the fact is if it happened to me I would have tried to save my house to because thats who I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsChief Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 After reading through this thread I came across this blog and it seemed appropriate to add here. I'm NOT trying to add fuel to the fire, nor am I trying to imply any race issues. There are ungrateful people in all walks of life. It's sad and unfortunate that everyone in the affected areas can't work together and help eachother out, but that's life. Volunteer's Experience in N.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleman Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Thank you Mschief Im glad I responded before you to prove its how I saw it not what I read. I just dont get some of those people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leelynn Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 good read mschief heres the answer most liberals don't want to hear. http://tiadaily.com/php-bin/news/showArticle.php?id=1026 and not one word about race!!!!!! for you na sayers and I'm taking my toys home types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleman Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Thanks for the read Leelynn, you are correct its the system (the welfare system to be exact). Even in Wis. the parrisites that thrive off the system are alive and well, its a sad way of life if you ask me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Exactly and I know how he feels, I'm chilean and brazilian. THAT explains everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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