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:veryangry: ...OK, now I'm REALLY pissed.Our National Guard (what's left guarding OUR nation) is overwhelmed  by the impact of the most destructive hurricane in recent memory,and the worst in people seems to be emerging as looters are adding the misery.

I'm trying to let my kind side understand this,as people are now driven down to just trying to survive now...but damn it where are are the 'law and order' advocates who are ready to bust pot smokers or the deviant politcos who sent our Guard to Afghanistan and Iraq.Are we now left to begin picking at one another's bones...?

Dear Lord forgive me,but it looks like martial law and curfew is now needed where looting is taking over.The question now is ,WHO is left to enforce it....are we now going to shoot to kill in order to bring some resemblance of order to bear ?  :tear2:

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The best report I watched -

 

Was when the looters broke into a McDonalds and stole all the frozen hamburgers and fries.

 

No power in New Orleans means no way to keep them frozen or cook them.

 

Morons...

 

Thanks, Danny

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i was upset when i saw the hours long wait to get into the superdome for shelter. those poor folks waited with babies and old people and suffered so much.after seeing how many mostly poor people were sitting on roofs or wading in the water toward safety,i was thinking the same security for ball games would have been plenty good enough for shelter from the storm.
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No power in New Orleans means no way to keep them frozen or cook them.

My guess is, they are hungry now.  Not planning on keeping them for Sunday's game.

 

As for cooking them, I'm sure they can make a fire with something.

 

The only sad part is ( apparently ) no one in the corporation thought to have someone go to hand out the food.  It was going to go bad anyway.

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To me, this does not compare with looting that happens in Los Angeles or Detroit during the riots.

In New Orleans, there are limited options for the mostly poor people stuck there. Not much help on the horizon. Looks more like survival instinct than greed.

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the cops were helping them take the food...i gots no prob with looting of survival stuff from stores...that shit's going bad anyways..now when those fuckers go in my apt..well i gots a big prob with that..

i think the looters don't realize the gravity of the situation....they think they will have a house full of good shit when this is over....this ain't gonna be over for a while..we haven't even started deploying yet..fema hasn't set up in baton rouge yet...

we need people to work for us....anybody need a job?

eric

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To me, this does not compare with looting that happens in Los Angeles or Detroit during the riots.

In New Orleans, there are limited options for the mostly poor people stuck there. Not much help on the horizon. Looks more like survival instinct than greed.

…. when in Los Angeles or Detroit it’s after a fucking BASKETBALL GAME!!!

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Here's a cracker idea.

Marine Corps sniper training.

A couple of teams would stir some shit up.

Taking the perishables and clothing to survive--no problem.

Looting Casinos--jewelry shops--etc. Make them target practice.

Word would get around pretty dang quick.

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Most of the foodstuff is quickly contaminated, bacteria makes even canned goods iffy to consume. I don't think it is a survival instinct at play from what I have seen, folks taking racks of tennis shoes from stores, TVs etc.  

 

Other than shoot on sight, there is not much of a deterante, can't put the folks in Jail cause there's not enough room.

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if it was survival related like the media would like you to belive...they would be stealing canned food, bottled water, disinfectant, rice, propane fuel and gas grills....

 

instead I see shoes, clothes, jewelry stores, drug stores being looted....

 

these are just fucking thugs and losers trying to get whatever they can for free.......

 

Here in Charleston after Hugo they had a few store and shop owners that defended their property....a couple shot looters and even had big signs out front saying...DO NOT ENTER THIS STORE AFTER DARK as looters will be shot.

 

There were a few that did not believe the hype...now they got buckshot and pistol slugs to teach them otherwise...it deterred any future looting that is for damn sure.

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if it was survival related like the media would like you to belive...they would be stealing canned food, bottled water, disinfectant, rice, propane fuel and gas grills....

 

instead I see shoes, clothes, jewelry stores, drug stores being looted....

 

these are just fucking thugs and losers trying to get whatever they can for free.......

 

Here in Charleston after Hugo they had a few store and shop owners that defended their property....a couple shot looters and even had big signs out front saying...DO NOT ENTER THIS STORE AFTER DARK as looters will be shot.

 

There were a few that did not believe the hype...now they got buckshot and pistol slugs to teach them otherwise...it deterred any future looting that is for damn sure.

Yup, anyone stealing food, drinking fluids, baby food and diapers, necessary medication like insulin or iodine to purify their water is understandable....

 

but I think the other looters may be in for a surprise...since communications aren't working throughout the city, most of them probably don't know that the governor has ordered the evacuation of the entire city.

 

So sometime soon, National Guardsmen will be knocking on their doors, telling them to pack up one bag and to get on the bus to go to Houston....

 

and the looter will have to reply "Man, I can't leave with just one bag...what about my 12 new TV's and my shopping cart full of new shoes? I can't leave all that behind"

 

That is, if the flood waters don't damage their ill-gotten gains first.

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As for cooking them, I'm sure they can make a fire with something.

BEST IDEA I'VE HEARD YET FIREBIRD.  LET'S COOK THEM LOOTERS!!    I HEAR THEY TASTE LIKE (fried) CHICKEN.

:bthumb:

 

GUESS WE NOW KNOW WHY ALL THOSE ABLE-BODIED YOUNG MEN STAYED BEHIND with their homes.  

 

FREE NIKE SHOES AND TV SETS!

 

 

Too bad "The Man" had to oppress them and "keep 'em down" for so long...

 

Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco (which MEANS WHITE)...

 

"Looting broke out in some New Orleans neighborhoods, prompting authorities to send more than 70 additional officers and an armed personnel carrier into the city. One police officer was shot in the head by a looter but was expected to recover, authorities said.

 

A giant new Wal-Mart in New Orleans was looted, and the entire gun collection was taken, The Times-Picayune newspaper reported. "There are gangs of armed men in the city moving around the city," said Ebbert, the city's homeland security chief. Also, looters tried to break into Children's Hospital, the governor's office said.

 

On New Orleans' Canal Street, dozens of looters ripped open the steel gates on clothing and jewelry stores and grabbed merchandise. In Biloxi, Miss., people picked through casino slot machines for coins and ransacked other businesses. In some cases, the looting took place in full view of police and National Guardsmen.

 

Blanco acknowledged that looting was a severe problem but said that officials had to focus on survivors. "We don't like looters one bit, but first and foremost is search and rescue," she said."

 

Yeah...it's a racial thing.

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maybe it is a racial thing foosh...

maybe if this was beverly hills the breach in the levy would be fixed...maybe the president wouldn't have waited two days to cut his vacation short...maybe there wouldn't be as much talk about "shooting the looters"...etc..

i don't think the stealing of non-essential, non-life sustaining items is acceptable....i don't think shooting (most) cops in the face is a good thing...

when this happens...mob rule takes over...doesn't matter where it is and socio-econonomic status means little....i.e. the fighting at stores for generators (for those that can afford them)...

this is bigger than 9-11, andrew, a 4 hurricanes in fla last year...let's see if America and the world responds..or if this is just another haiti..

eric

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maybe so Homer...the guys I mentioned that got shot in Charleston.....4 out of the 6 were young, white, middle class punks in highschool that thought mob rules were in place and thought they were smarter than everyone else.  And the store owner was not charged..and they got jail time after they got out of hospital.  But Greenberg (police chief) was hard as hell on looters and criminals...  I think they made mistake in NO saying you can loot if it was for survival....that gave the green light to anything and everything and you could see it getting out of control on the news.  Best thing would be for cops and Natl Guard to be at entrance to grocery stores and say you can take one basket of non perishable food items and sanitary items out at no charge...no drugs, no shoes, no guns, no video games, no jewelry.....

 

I know for a fact the all but one of the bridges in NO had been replaced with ones built specifically for this type of situation where they were not suppose to lift and come apart under flooding...even if it was over the bridges.  THey had also been replacing the levy stuff with new matieral and reinforcement for years but were not done yet.  The pump system though can only pump about 1 inch per hour from the city....and the water is coming in much faster than that now.  So the govt with corps of engineers had been working to prevent or reduce the impact for years...just did not get done in time and looks like this storm was larger than anything they expected.

Do you prepare it for 200 mph winds and know it will work at 100s of millions of dollars.....or do it for 120mph winds and save 100s of millions since the chance of a cat 5 storm is like winning lottery.....so i am guessing it was a bit of give and take on what was affordable and most likely to be needed.

 

on another note...wonder what if anything will be said for the poor people that live in the bayous and swamps...that i bet never left for this storm and nobody will ever know how many hundreds might be dead up in the bayou areas....just like some of the remote areas of the mississippi delta region....both black and white will be gone.  Death does not care the color of your skin...

 

I pray for all of them....

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:veryangry: ...OK, now I'm REALLY pissed.Our National Guard (what's left guarding OUR nation) is overwhelmed  by the impact of the most destructive hurricane in recent memory,and the worst in people seems to be emerging as looters are adding the misery.

I'm trying to let my kind side understand this,as people are now driven down to just trying to survive now...but damn it where are are the 'law and order' advocates who are ready to bust pot smokers or the deviant politcos who sent our Guard to Afghanistan and Iraq.Are we now left to begin picking at one another's bones...?

Dear Lord forgive me,but it looks like martial law and curfew is now needed where looting is taking over.The question now is ,WHO is left to enforce it....are we now going to shoot to kill in order to bring some resemblance of order to bear ?  :tear2:

Mayor Nagin said 3,500 National Guard troops were being sent to the city, and state police director H.L. Whitehorn was sending 40 state troopers and two armored personnel carriers.

 

“It’s a lot of chaos right now,” Whitehorn said of the looting.

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:pirate1: Man, this is serious shit, I have a son down there and many friends , who have lost everything. New Orleans is lost...They are off the power grid, gonna take 6months to a year to just restore power. Where are  over a million people gonna go to work, eat sleep etc.? Its gonna be mad max sooner than later. Where are all the other countries in the world at? Are they pulling together food, medicine, money etc. I am pissed and I say fuc'in nuke'em all and start over...unfortunately we are in this alone, maybe IronIndians can raise some money or maybe National can organize a relief effort?... Hey Homer what kind of job? I lived in Baton rouge for 9 years, wife and I would like to move back South, one day.

:angry:  :uhoh:...Catfish

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We've had 3 couples in our Internet Cafe today that had fled the hurricane before it hit and ended up here in Daytona.

 

One young couple is from Biloxi, they are staying at a local hotel. They left their home with what they could fit in their car, and headed East.

 

They finally got a hold of someone back home today, their house is demolished, with all contents....and both of them no longer have jobs to go back to.  Right now they are living off of their credit cards, and wondering what to do next.

 

We helped them get in touch with FEMA...don't know how long it will take to get any help from that area for the refugees who left that area.

 

The other two couples are from New Orleans and from a small town near Gulfport, and neither have been able to get in touch with anyone back home.

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The mayor is sayin probly thousands dead. Thousands. Shit, really puts the whole shooting match into perspective. I go off on these tangents about not living where the fury is, but thousands. Man, this is gonna change some stuff forever.

 

Flip side, I build for a living. You can take it to the bank. If there's the will, which there no doubt is, and there's the capital which there's gonna be, and the organization to put the right people in the right places, a lot of people in New Orleans will be celebrating a decent Thanksgiving and a solid Christmas. By this time next year this terrible terrible mess will be a part of history.

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I don't know about the rebuilding...it seems to me that most people are going to need flood and homeowner's insurance or commercial property insurance to rebuild.  

 

I wonder what the insurance company's reaction is going to be to insuring properties in New Orleans in the future?

 

It's getting more and more difficult to find homeowner's insurance on the coast of Florida these days, and that's at ANY price.

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To me, this does not compare with looting that happens in Los Angeles or Detroit during the riots.

In New Orleans, there are limited options for the mostly poor people stuck there. Not much help on the horizon. Looks more like survival instinct than greed.

…. when in Los Angeles or Detroit it’s after a fucking BASKETBALL GAME!!!

:SmackBottom: Puppy,.....Guess you wer'nt around in 67...wasn't any baseball games goin on here in DETROIT!!!  :banghead: them poor ass-holes were BURNING their own subs down........didn't care about the "old folk" they were displacing.....

that MOTHER NATURE......"She's a BITCH"

saw a fella on the news this morning before leaving for work(4a.m.) come crawlin outta a store with a stack of "tennis shoes" n I laughed about it....(I'ld be steal'n FOOD&WATER)

                                     :Feet-Up[1]:

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I think the Stupidity award for today goes to the CNN reporter who was interviewing the New Orleans Airport Director earlier today, and was badgering the Director about when the Airport would re-open for commercial flights.

 

He kept saying, "Well, when will the airport be open so tourists can come back to town, and friends and family members of the local residents can fly in and visit their loved ones?"

 

I'll have to hand it to the Airport Director, I could tell by the look on his face that he wanted to say "What part of NO FOOD, NO WATER, NO SEWAGE TREATMENT, NO PLACE TO STAY do you NOT understand, fool!"

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