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Anyone see the latest episode of Ride-on?  It's not on Tues nights anymore, its been relegated to Weds and Sat mornings.  The first half of show, they went to Scotland & interviewed the owner of the Indian Dakotas that are being made over there with inline 4's.  The owner is Alan Forbes I think his name is, he called Gilroy Indians nothing but a bunch of aftermarket parts thrown together and some decals put on gas tanks, said some people over here "bought" into this product but most realized theses bikes weren't in the true spirit of Indian.  His bikes, however, capture the real essence of Indian...they didn't look like much to me, sez he only makes the bikes once customers have already paid for them.  Guy was a real dickhead, someone needs to get ahold of the IIRA Scotland chapter & bust his head...I mean...talk to him...
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Gilroy Indians nothing but a bunch of aftermarket parts thrown together and some decals put on gas tanks,

 

 

........................ :I-Agree[1]:

 

pretty much ......I can buy every part for my Chief from J&P,, like what IMC did

 

...........But for a throw together Kit Clone, It sure looks good !

I like it & no Allen ,you cant ride it !

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Come on guys, they are aftermarket parts.  Most American bikes are expensive tinker toys.  I love my Indians, I have two.  And there are some things on the bike like the fenders that are custom.  And yes the PP100 is not made by S&S.  But fenders are pretty simple to make.  As for the engine, Vtwin internal combustion engines are not rocket science.

 There are so many off the shelf parts, why not use them.  Harley does the same thing.  All Harley does is put their name on the package or have the manufacturers add the name to the mold.  It's called OEM and it's a major part of there marketing business plan.  Yes business!  Contrary to what the average beer drinking, long hair, greasy biker dude wants to think, (none on this website) the people at Harley are in business to make money first and foremost.   They have officers and a board of directors.  Not a bunch of cool dudes who build bikes in their gargage.  These are cruisers, not sport bikes.  Not much precision to American cruisers.  Granted, there are plenty of competent engineers out there working on these things, but there are also guys like Billy Lane that make cool looking machines that he can't keep running.  

Lets call a spade a spade.  Anyone can buy an engine, frame, lights, EHC, harness, lights, carb etc..., get NHTSA and EPA testing and certification and build a motorcycle company.  That's why everyone is doing it.  

All that said, I like the state of the industry.  I like that I can fix my bike without being an engineer.  I don't want a high proformance machine that I have to send to an expert to fix.  And I certainly don't want something like a VROD that slips into the fringe.  Hell, that Japs can  do that and better.  Give me off the shelf any day.  It keeps me in control of my bikes destiny and ensures parts availability.  So next time that Harley guy asks you if you are worried about getting parts. Just look at him like the stupid fool that he is and say, "Are you Kidding!

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nope...if they were truly a bunch of parts i woulda been able to find a left side spot lamp bracket for my vintage...

 

of course most parts can be found aftermarket. that's the way it should be--why reinvent the wheel?..have parts stamped, made or modified to your specs by companies that are already tooled up and run with it..

 

but there was a lot more thought and planning and engineering that goes into building bikes on a scale as Indian, Vic, HD, etc...than that non producing, never shipped a bike, won't answer email scared cuz he knows he will loose the trademark soon fucktard states...

 

but i ain't hatin him..

eric

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The best thing Gilroy did for us was make a kit bike.  At least we might be able to keep them running awhile longer, especially since Gilroy isn't around anymore....

      campbell     :outdoor:

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The best thing Gilroy did for us was make a kit bike.  At least we might be able to keep them running awhile longer, especially since Gilroy isn't around anymore....

      campbell     :outdoor:

:P ...I'm stickin' with my garlic capital pony,until I see an INDIAN motorcycle that's more true to it's American heritage....might be a while,eh?

KEEP IT SIMPLE (stupid)! was advice I heard many times growing up.I'm not impressed so far by what I've heard (or more accurately not heard)  regarding the  new & improved INDIAN motorcycles.I think the fact we're able to handle most repairs as owners,is fine.As long as we have such resources as Frank,Posie,and Joe...and EZ, to build the motors right I don't have a problem.

Actually,I always thought it was common place for INDIAN owners to modify & improve their machines as a statement of skill,character, & individuality....and that's still the case.

 

RIDE SAFE....LIVE LONG :wave:

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Where are his American Indians made , what country is that? He probably bad mouths America as well , and for all you non serving vets , talk is cheap , I dont care what you say , Indian is Canadian , whatever , Gilroy is IN FACT AN AMERICAN CITY! Our bikes were made in AMERICA , THATS THE FACT!

 

You want a Canadian bike go to Canada , you want a brit bike go to the UK!

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'e wants authentic...let 'im go to Kiwi/Shop sidevalve flathead kit for 50large and market them in UK to 'is wellheeled Brityuppy turdface clientele. Sure would beat his vulvo 4cyl regurge...If 'e demands authentic of others, why doesn't 'e have it? Repop those old in line fours instead of the vulvo. :veryangry:  Practice whatcha preach I say BRILLIANT :Furious:     SCHMUCK = Alan 2face Forbes :SmackBottom:
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Hey I'm not interested in the guys bike either.  But as for made in America, you mean assembled in America.  Indian, like Harley, uses plenty of asian parts.  Look at our saddlebags.  RJ used to make them until Indian decided they could have them copied in Mexico and stamped Indian for less and increase their margin.  Gilroy is a beautiful city, but it's too expense to build bikes there.  They should have moved to a less expensive state.  If you're going to compete with off-shore, you have to be more creative.
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Let's not forget Stellican is British.  Does that preclude us from buy from them?  If they get established, build the bike here, use all American components, does that make it ok?  What if they do all that and incoporate in Cayman or Bermuda to avoid paying U.S. taxes?  Taxes that go to protecting us and our lifesyle.  Where do you draw the line.  Twenty 20 yrs ago I knew people who wouldn't buy a Jap car.  Now they brag about how well they are built.  It's an ever changing world.  

I love this devils advocate stuff!

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I'm going to try an experiment.  Eric said he couldn't find the spotlights.  As crappy as they are, many of us will want to replace with the original if possible.  That said, does anyone, whether ex dealer, ex employee, or customer, have a box that the lights were shipped in.  The box will state the country of origin.  If someone can get that, we may be able to find manufacturer.  They may have been imported by reseller and sold to Indian but the original box will still have the COO.
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Clue: aurora made the tailights for sure on the mid'99s and up. maybe the topic was posted on in the past. Could be the same as a box from JP would be now since they are selling them now. Anyone live near Anamosa IA?  On the other hand, I don't like the way those spots fog up. I've had guys with '01s say the spots I've got Stock are way brighter. They are the sealed beam type btw...<--~^~--> Think Homie wanted the spotlite bracket leftside for his pp. <{-----}>  :Beer-Chug[1]:
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I got tails and teardrops spares in the Indian box with the China stamp. Dunno for brackets.

 

As far as some kilt wearin dink on a two wheeled Volvo goes... Too bad McQuack. Shoulda kept that gaptooth maw shut because some of us were more than a little interested in your machine until we came to the realization that the nitwit offering it couldn't keep his uninformed thirdworld opinions to himself.

 

Sell that Volvo POS to the rubes bubba. Of all people, a man that places the Indian logo on a cobbled together motorcycle insults my ride. That low life dick can take his haggis breath bullshit and stuff it.

 

As far as Corbin's Ride On goes, fuck him too.

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Got it all but haggis. I'm not an Indian rider anymore. Had to sell. Putting a pseudo Chief together and learning what quality parts Indian used overall. Billet hubs, stainless spokes, Brembo brakes, bolt in spreader bar on soptlight bracket. That 1.5 x 1.5 pulley side rear spacer is not your typical aftermarket part. The undermount oil tank, mono shock and bottle cap motor make Chiefs unique, period.
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