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Here is my take, in addition to those things listed here, on how we are being played. The ruling elite does not like how things are going. They have tried the following; let’s create a Russian collusion narrative to get a non member of this elite group removed. It failed. lets impeach the non member of this elite group for suggesting an investigation into corruption in a foreign country should be done. Whoops this corruption involved a member of this elite group and his son. This member bragged about an incident of a quid pro quo to remove someone already investigating this. That can’t be ... let’s impeach... again it Failed. So, let’s utilize an infectious disease with a 99% or better survival rate to shut down our economy. The outcome is yet to be determined... This assumption of mine is based on my belief that there is a ruling elite. The belief that this ruling elite is getting richer and more powerful everyday. And, they fear this could change unless they can remove the non member.

Median age of CoVid19 deaths is 83 years of age... The Doomers are ruling as monarchs... This lockdown has been an enormous waste of time, money & resources. Tremendous waste unprecedented waste, imposed to distract from deep state crime truth & consequences.

CONTRARIANISM Pure & simple Only a Contrarian would buy Indian over the other brand. That is the Motorcycle preference explanation. Of course some own both as they are American made twins. *************************************************************** This site used to be busy but Facebook has taken over the social scuttlebutt traffic like it or not. As far as I know, only 4 or less persons have ever been banned here ever. Most Indian fanatics are conservative, survivalist, or progressive in that order. When opinions of the world at large are given here, it is usually a conservative opinion. There have always been those who advocate more radical life styles on the sidelines. If all we ever talk about is Indian Motorcycles mechanics & customization content would be single dimensional and redundant ~ every aspect has been rehashed relentlessly. So there is a JOKE section, a Classified sales section, event announcement section, etc. We live in the whole world, so the whole world is discussed here. Nothing is off limits that's the way this forum was set up & that is the way it needs to be ~ free discussion. We can tell a joke, copy & paste weird shit, put up a controversial clip or even research a mechanical or electrical technique related or unrelated to motorcycling. Sometimes a person will stick his or her nose in here & get some offended feelings pricked. That is a cost of freedom of content, You or I may not like what I read here. There have been polls taken here in the past over banning political & social comment. There used to be a regular 'Political' section here until those who were easily offended succeeded in eliminating it and imposing 'correct speech monitors' who could edit or censure 'inflamatory content' of any kind. Well most of those sensitive types migrated to Facebook long ago. A few still look in from time to time but rarely comment. ******************************************************* This is an election year so there is going to be relevant content dealing with that. If one would like the forked tongue version of present & past events all one needs to do is access the all-pervasive media owned, monopolized & controlled by elite deep state globalist technocrat interests ~ normal everyday mostly far left propaganda. If you notice, no one has the old biker's back anymore on those platforms. Come here to keep your Indian Motorcycle on the road & out of the $150/hour shops. Only a contrarian rides Indian Motorcycles. Only a contrarian would question the spoonfed pablum of the Marxist nonstop firehose of sewage called the MSM. This is why this site exists.

Do you really need to ask?

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Thomas Jefferson quotes on the news 'reporting' circa 1807 https://www.loc.gov/resource/mtj1.038_0592_0594/?sp=1&st=text "I will add, that the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods & errors. He who reads nothing will still learn the great facts, and the details are all false. Such an editor too, would have to set his face against the demoralising practice of feeding the public mind habitually on slander, & the depravity of taste which this nauseous ailment induces. Defamation is becoming a necessary of life; insomuch, that a dish of tea in the morning or evening cannot be digested without this stimulant. Even those who do not believe these abominations, still read them with complaisance to their auditors, and instead of the abhorrence & indignation which should fill a virtuous mind, betray a secret pleasure in the possibility that some may believe them, tho they do not themselves. It seems to escape them, that it is not he who prints, but he who pays for printing a slander, who is it's real author. These thoughts on the subjects of your letter are hazarded at your request. Repeated instances of the publication of what has not been intended for the public eye, and the malignity with which political enemies torture every sentence from me into meanings imagined by their own wickedness only, justify my expressing a solicitude, that this hasty communication may in nowise be permitted to find it's way into the public papers. Not fearing these political bull-dogs, I yet avoid putting myself in the way of being baited by them, and do not wish to volunteer away that portion of tranquillity, which a firm execution of my duties will permit me to enjoy. I tender you my salutations, and best wishes for your success."

THREE 'Not F#CKING AROUND COALITION' (NFAC} PROTESTERS hit with same single Neg/Dis bullet... Panic erupts today as Black militia protester has negligent discharge into fellow protesters Three militia members were injured in the shooting Louisville KY https://www.lawofficer.com/panic-erupts-as-black-militia-protester-has-negligent-discharge-into-fellow-protesters/ here ya go...

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.” ― Sun Tzu ---

They closed your business. They closed your schools. They closed your church. They closed your parks. They closed your beaches. They banned funerals. They banned graduations. They made you wear masks. They banned dads in delivery rooms. But they allow riots, vandalism, arson, looting and the destruction of the American Flag and American History. We were all played. MODERN PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE Scare people with a virus. Place them in quarantine. Count the number of dead every second of every day in every news headline. Close all businesses. 40,000,000 out of jobs. Peak unemployment. Remove live entertainment: parks, gyms, bars, restaurants, sports. No dating. No touching. Mask people. Dehumanize them. Close temples and churches. Create a vacuum. Let depression and anxiety and desperation set in. Then... ignite hatred and civil war. Civil unrest. Empty the prisons because of the virus and fill the streets with criminals. Send in Antifa to vandalize property as if they are freedom fighters. Undermine the law. Loot. Attack law enforcement, but tell government to order a stand-down. We are all being bated by adversarial governments who want to destroy America - China, Iran, Russia. Have the Far Left abuse the racial aggravations to fuel the fires. And, in an election year, have Democrats blame all of it on the President. This is what modern warfare looks like. Walkaway from the Marxists Terrorists aka the Democratic Party. #walkway Copy and Paste you're welcome.

'This is the communist philosophy – You are not allowed to walk away. You are not allowed to stay as you are. Your only choice is to be re-educated. Your only option is to conform.' ' Think of the Chinese invasion of Tibet when pondering this mentality. The CCP's strategy was one of ethnic cleansing; building railways to Tibet to import Chinese people and run out the indigenous Tibetans. But, when Tibetans sought to leave the country on foot to go to Nepal, the Chinese government set up snipers in the mountains to kill them as they tried to escape.'

Makes you miss the "Crazyhorse Wars" at times. I believe we've established clearly on here beyond a shadow of a doubt that many on here love Trump, many hate him. Many think that COVID-19 is a hoax, many believe it is a harbinger of the end of times. I don't care which way you believe, and don't care to convince you over to my particular Zeitgeist, because I never could. I am unlike most people, I really don't give a fuck about any politician. I will never vote again. And before someone opines that I'm not doing my duty, I had my duty card filled out before my 18th birthday. We should be discussing matters of self defense, food stockpiling, life after electricity and how to build snares large enough to catch a human. Our commonality for coming here is Indian Motorcycles. Very little discussion at this juncture about that anymore. I see guys on other forums that own Gilroy's and I send them here because this is the best place in the world to find out about them. We should stick to what we all know best, our beloved Indians. I know we all care about each other as evidenced by our recent attempt by all hands to support MPlate. Last week ai received a wonderful PM from Harleynot wishing me a happy birthday. I don't take much of this seriously. The banter here over the years is cyclical. I suppose in five years we will be arguing about cremation over embalming for our final journey.

Curious why this site exists? (For the narcissists)

Most CO VID 19 deaths are due to organ failure arising from hypoxemia which is a lack of oxygen in the bloodstream, and Hypoxia ~ a lack of oxygen in tissues. So to answer your question we must say the death totals you hear about may be CoVid related but the real killer is pneumonia, hypoxia & hypoxemia where the decedent even on a ventilator can pass away due to lack of oxygen or good old fresh air. Yet mortality rates are still around .01% and over 40 million people have been tested here. The shutdown 'cure' has always been a calculated over-reaction, a knee jerk reaction planned ahead to revoke freedoms, impose economic chaos, double the deficit & further enslave the future generations of all ~ especially the hard working people of this Sovereign Nation. Fresh Statist governor's edicts include $500 fines for leaving your house with no mask on... So riding the bike down the road or doing yard work or walking the dog with no face covering mask is now subject to the $500 fine & or jail time to be determined in court if the fine is contested. They dare us to rebel daily as the restrictions are ratcheted up those in like Red China or North Korea. Yep make everyone stay home to keep us safe... what a sick joke, and yet folks like you who go along with it without a qualm & point fingers & report those who excercise their God given rights to life, liberty & the individual pursuit of happiness ~ you have vacated and abandoned your own grip that we all need to maintain on our Sovereignty. I believe Stu is correct ~ it is a social experiment to see how far to push & how much freedom can be ruined & how much liberty can be eliminated thru arbitrary edicts put forth by Marxist haters of our Constitutional Republic.

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C’mon Robin... The loss of life is growing exponentially... if you start with a falsehood the rest of what you say is meaningless... The death rate has been declining since early June even though the number of cases has risen considerably with the considerable increase in testing. We are in mid July so the lag from infection to death has passed... and deaths are still declining... we are being played... Some fall for it, when convenient... the espouse wearing a mask, unless they want to go to dinner or out for drinks. Then it’s ok to not wear a mask. Either it is or isn’t a must to wear one... I choose isn’t.

Yessir one can rationalize it which ever way one wants. The cold hard facts are that loss of life is approaching 140K and growing exponentially. Not to mention the unforeseen lingering side effects that are just coming to be noticed. Also factual evidence that masking and distancing do work even though the moron occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Ave says that's enough, open her back up. See where that got it. But wait, there's more. This schitt is just going to magically disappear, according to the same moron who has no credentials what so ever to be spouting opinions on the subject. How many people have died from those conditions you posted up there. Facts now, don't make up schitt like the donald does every time he opens his mouth.

As it says in my signature, stupidity is a condition, an inability to learn and ignorance is a choice. Then there's the joke from the stand up comedians, "Here's your sign"------YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID. Intelligent folks who choose to ignore facts could certainly be assessed as stupid. Maybe they are, maybe they ain't. But here's a new corollary; If all of the deniers of the covid-19 pandemic keep avoiding wearing masks and do not observe social distancing the problem could fix itself. Stupid could be fixed if they are all gone. Thin those folks right out of the gene pool.

Just for the record, got my eighth Covid-19 test in two months this week due to yet another hospital stay. Again, negative. When are they going to start believing it? I have end stage renal disease and virtually no immune system left. If I had Covid-19 I would be on a respirator. As an aside, this latest hospital stay proved beyond doubt that epogen would solve my hemoglobin problem yet my dialysis clinic still refuses to give it to me. I will be changing clinics as soon as the paper work is complete. So much for operating in the best medical interest of the patient. My guess, their hoarding the epogen and selling it on the black market.